Speculation: Roster Building Thread Part XV: Trading up or down? - Mod Warning post #450

[effen]

Would you trade Skjei for the 10th if Boqvist was there? (assuming we picked a forward at 9)

If Hughes fell by some chance would you do it?

0% of the time

 

[effen]

I'm curious, why doesn't Lingren have a similar top-4 upside? He came out of school after his sophomore year, a year earlier than Skjei. He has looked good in the NCAA and the WJC. He could play in the AHL for the entirety of the next 2 years and be right in line with when Skjei broke into the NHL. He's slightly shorter (~2-3") but he stockier than Skjei.

I actually think Lindgren, if he keeps progressing, could be a nice #4

doesn't remotely have the puck skills or skating

different player

Skjei's brain is behind his speed which is why he does simple plays more than he should. If that catches up you have a top pairing guy.

 

[Ghost of jas]

What do people say of Lindgren to Kaspar?

What is Kaspar sending back?

 

[bobbop]

I'm curious, why doesn't Lingren have a similar top-4 upside? He came out of school after his sophomore year, a year earlier than Skjei. He has looked good in the NCAA and the WJC. He could play in the AHL for the entirety of the next 2 years and be right in line with when Skjei broke into the NHL. He's slightly shorter (~2-3") but he stockier than Skjei.

I actually think Lindgren, if he keeps progressing, could be a nice #4

Let me repeat what a scout told me after Lindgren was acquired...”He’s Michael Sauer”.

 

[effen]

Listen, I like Brady Skjei, but we probably have his equivalent in spades already, in terms of caliber of player if not in style, in Lindgren, Rykov, and Hajek.

This is reminding me of people lumping in complete slugs like Berezgalov about our great defensive depth last year.

 

[effen]

Let me repeat what a scout told me after L8ndgrennwas acquired...”He’s Michael Sauer”.

so he could be a nice #4 with limited offense? sounds great tbh

 

[bobbop]

Not at all disagreeing, just saying he has technically already traded a young veteran. I think Gorton is looking for deals that he feels he will 'win'. Whether they puts a player like Stepan, McDonagh, Miller, Skjei or whoever available doesn't seem to matter.

Then Gorton will like it here. The Boards having the Rangers winning just about every trade proposal.

 

[DutchShamrock]

My biggest fear just sitting at #9 is that the Islanders will use some of their draft capital and trade in front of us. They could screw up whatever plans we have.

I'd be shocked that they make 2 1st round picks. They will use the capital to address goal and the rest of the team.

 

[Rangers in 7]

My biggest fear just sitting at #9 is that the Islanders will use some of their draft capital and trade in front of us. They could screw up whatever plans we have.

honestly i dont see a problem with it, even if the isles jump ahead of us....as a matter of fact i wish they did because that would make 11 and 12 available to us to acquire

 

[NYR Viper]

How have their been no trades as of yet...

 

[bobbop]

Would people have a different POV about a potential Karlsson trade if he agreed to a contract extension as part of the deal?

 

[Fvital92]

How have their been no trades as of yet...

The GMs are occupied watching the World Cup.

 

[I Eat Crow]

Would people have a different POV about a potential Karlsson trade if he agreed to a contract extension as part of the deal?

100%.

I wouldn't want to trade assets only for him to turn around and sign elsewhere. I'd give up assets to get him to a contract on NYR's terms.

No more than 5 to 6 years.

 

[Mac n Gs]

Trading Skjei would be stupid and blindly expecting Hajek, Rykov, and Lindgren to replace him just because of their ceilings is silly. He’s pretty close to irreplacable in our system at the moment. I say that as a huge fan of Hajek.

Would people have a different POV about a potential Karlsson trade if he agreed to a contract extension as part of the deal?

Depends on how much. We talking 7x$12M?

 

[bl02]

The GMs are occupied watching the World Cup.

Watching the brilliance that is Luka Modric damn

 

[NoQuitInNewMexico]

I think everyone just assumes we wouldn’t be dumb enough to trade for Karlsson without an extension

 

[GAGLine]

Would people have a different POV about a potential Karlsson trade if he agreed to a contract extension as part of the deal?

No. That contract is going to end up being a problem for whichever team gives it to him. I want no part of that.

 

[DutchShamrock]

Would people have a different POV about a potential Karlsson trade if he agreed to a contract extension as part of the deal?

I don't want to be a debbie downer. It moves the needle, but that'll be a huge cap hit for the downward slope of his career. The slope could be steep or it could be gradual. But it weighs on my decision.

An extension makes the price more palatable but I can't say yes without knowing the trade.

 

[NYR Viper]

Would people have a different POV about a potential Karlsson trade if he agreed to a contract extension as part of the deal?

The short answer is yes, of course. It all depends on what the cost is in assets though

 

[Dijock94]

For me trading for EK extension or not is counterproductive to a rebuild. So for me it’s a no. If he makes it to free agency signing him for nothing is an entirely different story.

 

[bobbop]

Would people have a different POV about a potential Karlsson trade if he agreed to a contract extension as part of the deal?

Let me answer my own question...yes I would. Definitely. Karlsson is elite talent. This will be his age 28 season. We would be paying for ages 29-35/36. His skill set should age very well. I’d gladly move 3/4 assets and take back salary to make this deal. In fact, I’d carry Hayes, Namestnikov and whomever on my back to Ottawa to make this deal. Big, Big if about an extension but he makes this team much better the day he shows up and it goes from there. It goes from a rebuild to a reload.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

My biggest fear just sitting at #9 is that the Islanders will use some of their draft capital and trade in front of us. They could screw up whatever plans we have.

Really seems like the Isles are caring less about draft picks and more about trying to win now. It’s more likely they trade one of those picks for a now player.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

For me trading for EK extension or not is counterproductive to a rebuild. So for me it’s a no. If he makes it to free agency signing him for nothing is an entirely different story.

This.

I'm only taking him for pennies on the dollar, which means likely with Ryan (money retained) and without a contract. (I'm also potentially then flipping him at the TDL.) Next year, after (hopefully) a season of development from our kids, when he can be had for only money, is a completely different situation.

 

[Levitate]

Hmm remember that the Rangers do still have Smith under contract and it's possible he comes back and plays better at the NHL level

 

[Zibanejbread]

Trading Skjei would be stupid and blindly expecting Hajek, Rykov, and Lindgren to replace him just because of their ceilings is silly. He’s pretty close to irreplacable in our system at the moment. I say that as a huge fan of Hajek.

Just like we can trade Hayes because we have Andersson, Chytil, and Howden!