Speculation: Roster Building Thread : Part XV (Light em up!)

[McRanger92]

 

[lakeshirts37]

it's not my fault GM's are stupid for defenseman who throw Big Hitz. he should've had negative value.

or you just have no idea what youre talking about lol. NHL GMs establish the market. Teams wanted Trouba - thus he had positive value. Not that hard to understand

Kyper is full of it

 

[bernmeister]

The simple reason, whether it really is that simple or not, is that they see their team as outright better and more competitive in an overt way with Miller than Pettersson at the helm. Miller seems like a better leader and has been a better playoff performer. Their owner may just like him that much more.

Miller has the intangibles now
Age long term, advantage to younger Ellias Pett

 

[zlev]

or you just have no idea what youre talking about lol. NHL GMs establish the market. Teams wanted Trouba - thus he had positive value. Not that hard to understand

yeah sure I guess NHL GMs like bad players even more than I thought.

 

[DanielBrassard]

I’d do it just to be rid of Mika’s contract, but I wouldn’t be happy about adding Miller. I don’t know if the canucks would even make that trade.

 

[Rangers in 7]

I’d do it just to be rid of Mika’s contract, but I wouldn’t be happy about adding Miller. I don’t know if the canucks would even make that trade.

Agreed. I think the canucks would absolutely do it.

 

[mas0764]

The only way Miller makes sense is under a few scenarios:
1) the cost is very minimal
2) Zibanejad is going the other way in exchange
3) Drury can trade Zibanejad and use those same assets, or equal value in assets, to acquire Miller

No to 3.

Once I have the young assets I want to keep them.

The only acceptable solution is if Mika doesn’t return a future asset haul but somehow the Canucks are ok with a 1-to-1 swap.

 

[mas0764]

I may be in the minority here, but as much as I would love to see Perreault in a Rangers uniform - If there is a player (not Miller) who could be had that is a cornerstone type of guy and a center (and younger) to build around I wouldn't have a problem moving him in the deal.

Watching him at BC and the WJC - he is the same type of non-contact, just OK skater who is very similar to the type of veterans we are having issues with in NY.

And his value is very high. It would be a risk for sure, but given the Rangers track record in developing young forwards - lets just dangle him out there for a proven elite player who fits the mold.

Not to mention im kinda sick of watching and waiting for young forwards to blossom in the franchise. Its excruciating. Fit a winner in here with the same age path of the current youth core.

Sure, I’ll listen to offers, but it would have to be equally young franchise center type or #1D type.

Not sure you could ever extract enough value out of a wing prospect in return.

 

[mas0764]

lets just start saving for McDavid, Eichel, Kaprizov or Necas.

McDavid probably a pipe dream. Kaprizov would be a nice get.

Need a center badly though. Maybe Hagens?

can we not retcon how good mika was, he’s had a nightmare, horribad season but at his peak he was a f***ing monster. does your memory not extend past 2 years?

from 2018-2023 he was our easily best center since messier part 1

Yes but the sad part is, that still wasn’t a top 10 center in the league.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

McDavid probably a pipe dream. Kaprizov would be a nice get.

Need a center badly though. Maybe Hagens?


Yes but the sad part is, that still wasn’t a top 10 center in the league.

At his peak he absolutely was.

Pre Covid Mika was a baller.

 

[mas0764]

Id trade Laf before Gabe for Pettersson

I’d entertain it at least but they can’t stop there. Keep hunting for young players. I would want a young forward and a prospect for Kreider, see if I can get picks for Mika. Draft Hagens with our own first. You could have quite the young top 6 forward group and then just have to work on the defense. A defense which still has Fox by the way so the hardest job there is done.

At his peak he absolutely was.

Pre Covid Mika was a baller.

I don’t know about that.

Maybe for one year.

 

[zlev]

I’d do it just to be rid of Mika’s contract, but I wouldn’t be happy about adding Miller. I don’t know if the canucks would even make that trade.

JT Millers contract is almost as bad but yeah, no way the Canucks do that

 

[McRanger92]

The interesting thing to me is the idea that the Rangers are JT’s preferred location. First time we’re hearing of it. Kypreos has a so-so record.

We still need upgrades on defense

 

[Siddi]

I don’t think it’s a retcon to say Zib wasn’t a t10 center in the NHL during his time here. He was 100% on track to being t10 in the 19-20 season prior to the Covid shutdown, but prior/since? Something like t15-20 and trending exponentially downward since the beginning of 23-24.

17/18 to 23/24

9th in goals
13th in point totals

 

[RangerBoy]

Boston really needs to add more offense. There is no much scoring or skill on that team. I was watching the Bruins pre-game on NESN last night. NESN has a one hour pre-game show. Former Bruins and Leafs goalie Andrew Raycroft works for NESN. He was saying Boston needs to go all in this season because the east is wide open and he doesn't think the east teams are very good. he said he doesn't want to hear about protecting first round picks.

Chris Kreider would be perfect for them. He wouldn't be a rental for them either. Don Sweeney has given up first round picks for rentals and he isn't a very big fan on doing that again. Rick Nash. Tyler Bertuzzi.

 

[Gordon Bombay]

The sooner I can put my Miller jersey in a goodwill dumpster, the better

 

[Kocur Dill]

Not a fan of including Key in a trade for JT, but that could be the CoA given on paper Z for JT is a wash.

Cant argue JT has more that Z at his best brings.

Key is an over payment and we are short on D. Maybe Forbort or Soucy comes back too if he waves.

 

[duhmetreE]

At his peak he absolutely was.

Pre Covid Mika was a baller.

It’s the one year where he worked out with Kreider in the off season. Magically had his best season. I wonder what changed

 

[Bacon Artemi Bravo]

It’s the one year where he worked out with Kreider in the off season. Magically had his best season. I wonder what changed

I honestly think him becoming a husband and father has shifted his priorities and passions in life. That's not even a shot at him - it's completely understandable. Just sucks for the Rangers.

 

[RangerBoy]

EF mentioned the Rangers and McRanger92's favorite player.

Mika for Miller won't work. Even if Mika agreed to waive, Van wouldn't do it. The deal would’ve have been done already if Mika and Van said yes

EF said Vancouver wants Schneider and the Rangers don't want to deal Schneider.

EF thinks Chicago will pursue Miller. Best fit.

 

[TominNC]

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My question becomes why Mika waives for Vancouver? Is that situation one he wants to go to? I wouldn't speculate anything regarding Zibanejad.

Finally someone else with sense. But still we get Mika deals all day every day

 

[SA16]

My question becomes why Mika waives for Vancouver? Is that situation one he wants to go to? I wouldn't speculate anything regarding Zibanejad.

Gives him extra time to practice on a team with Pettersson prior to the four nations tournament.

 

[RangerBoy]

Would Mika waive for Minnesota? His BFF is there. The Wild will have the space this summer. I have a friend who is a Manhattan real estate broker. She had an open house many years ago. 17 or 18. Some homeless looking guys with long hair, facial hair and ripped jeans showed up at an open house event. She wanted to call security until someone working for said those guys play for the Rangers. They were not escorted out of the building. She asked me if I knew them. They had weird names. Yeah. Mika Zibanejad and Mats Zuccarello. Yea them. I told her they were making $5M each give or take $500,000. Really? She thought they were homeless. Guerin has the buyout money coming off the books.

 

[cheech70]

Baby is excited to go to the Canucks

 

[Mikachu93]

Would Mika waive for Minnesota? His BFF is there. The Wild will have the space this summer. I have a friend who is a Manhattan real estate broker. She had an open house many years ago. 17 or 18. Some homeless looking guys with long hair, facial hair and ripped jeans showed up at an open house event. She wanted to call security until someone working for said those guys play for the Rangers. They were not escorted out of the building. She asked me if I knew them. They had weird names. Yeah. Mika Zibanejad and Mats Zuccarello. Yea them. I told her they were making $5M each give or take $500,000. Really? She thought they were homeless. Guerin has the buyout money coming off the books.

What would Minnesota even be willing to send us