Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XLVI

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Does anyone think we could pry McAvoy or Pastrnak out of Boston? They might be looking to make some changes after a disappointing end to the year. Would they be interested in a package including Andersson, Fast, and the 20? We could also include Kreider at 50% to help them for next year.

Lol. Disappointing year? They were 1 win away from the cup.

No, we aren't prying McAvoy or Pastrnak out of Boston.
 
That annoyed me so much too, the Rangers were only going to interview someone else if JD turned down the job, it’s like they don’t realize the owner is the one who’s going to interview people for the job and the owner doesn’t care about any hockey business besides signing checks
My whole thing is that the Rangers management could've interviewed 15 people as preliminary candidates and the media not report on it. It's just annoying to listen for weeks as people complain about the same thing which might not even be true. Just because Brooks isn't reporting it doesn't mean it's not happening. I like a lot of Blueshirt Banter's content, but their podcast is very often them whining about things they already have their minds made up about without even providing context or anything. A lot of things like: "They are against analytics" spouted as 100% fact when the truth is they definitely use analytics internally, just bc they're not interpreting their analytics the same way you do doesn't mean they are against them.
 
My whole thing is that the Rangers management could've interviewed 15 people as preliminary candidates and the media not report on it. It's just annoying to listen for weeks as people complain about the same thing which might not even be true. Just because Brooks isn't reporting it doesn't mean it's not happening. I like a lot of Blueshirt Banter's content, but their podcast is very often them whining about things they already have their minds made up about without even providing context or anything. A lot of things like: "They are against analytics" spouted as 100% fact when the truth is they definitely use analytics internally, just bc they're not interpreting their analytics the same way you do doesn't mean they are against them.
Yeah, I reeeeally don’t like a lot of how they get to their conclusions and even a lot of their conclusions. I try to stay out of the NYR twitter world, but they said a few weeks in a row that Miller for Namestnikov was a straight up swap in that trade and bitched about how terrible Gorton is for that, so I tweeted at them to point out that they had it wrong, they told me I was wrong and that’s not what Brooks’ report said twice, so I dug up the report, and what do you know, it said it went down exactly like I told them it did. So they even get the information they take as 100% truth wrong :dunno:
 
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It feels like having a good goalie on a rookie deal or bargain contract is a huge advantage. Use the extra cap space for more skater depth. As great as Lundqvist is, we paid him a ton of money that we could have used elsewhere. Most years there were goalies that performed just as well or better than he did at a fraction of his salary. He was remarkably consistent from year to year but all you really need in the playoffs is for your goalie to go on a hot streak.
 
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It feels like having a good goalie on a rookie deal or bargain contract is a huge advantage. Use the extra cap space for more skater depth. As great as Lundqvist is, we paid him a ton of money that we could have used elsewhere. Most years there were goalies that performed just as well or better than he did at a fraction of his salary. He was remarkably consistent from year to year but all you really need in the playoffs is for your goalie to go on a hot streak.
I mean, yeah, but they paid the guy that you don’t really need to cross your fingers and hope for him to be good, he was just going to be good anyway

Paying guys like Girardi and Staal were bigger problems in allocating money than paying Lundqvist
 
Does anyone think we could pry McAvoy or Pastrnak out of Boston? They might be looking to make some changes after a disappointing end to the year. Would they be interested in a package including Andersson, Fast, and the 20? We could also include Kreider at 50% to help them for next year.
No I don't think that'd happen
 
STL was not bad for many years, that is extremely incorrect.

Unless you are citing them being bad in 2007, 12 freaking years ago.

They made the most of their mid to late 1st round picks, which they had because they didnt trade all of them. They made some good trades and even some bold ones, such as Schenn and ROR, respectively. They struck gold with their goaltender halfway through a very muddy season in which they fired their coach.

Lets not act like they stripped it down and went through some serious rebuild, which is why tanking is absolutely not mandatory to building a champion.
 
No major UFAs. Was bad for many years. Fantastic trades. Good, young goaltending. Stanley Cup champs.
You’re right that all their UFAs were middle-six Fs. They had some very good trades, after having a few very bad ones. Great in the regular season for a while, but nothing in the postseason. I don’t know how great Binnington or Berube are, but those are the two that the team could rally around. Not Allen, not Ryan Miller, not Yeo or Hitchcock
 
STL was not bad for many years, that is extremely incorrect.

Unless you are citing them being bad in 2007, 12 freaking years ago.

They made the most of their mid to late 1st round picks, which they had because they didnt trade all of them. They made some good trades and even some bold ones, such as Schenn and ROR, respectively. They struck gold with their goaltender halfway through a very muddy season in which they fired their coach.

Lets not act like they stripped it down and went through some serious rebuild, which is why tanking is absolutely not mandatory to building a champion.
This. The blues winning actually more speaks to the rangers old core potentially having had another run in them IF they could have infused young talent and a difference maker or two without moving the core players
 
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You’re right that all their UFAs were middle-six Fs. They had some very good trades, after having a few very bad ones. Great in the regular season for a while, but nothing in the postseason. I don’t know how great Binnington or Berube are, but those are the two that the team could rally around. Not Allen, not Ryan Miller, not Yeo or Hitchcock
The blues have played in the 2nd round multiple times and the conference finals before. Just couldn’t get through when the hawks were a dynasty and the kings won in alternating years

11-12: lost to Kings (kings cup) in 2nd round
12-13: lost to kings (hawks cup) in 1st round
13-14: lost to hawks (rangers misssed cup) in 1st round
14/15: lost to wild (hawk cup) in 1st round
15-16: lost to sharks (finalist) (pitt cup) in WCF
16-17: lost to preds (finalist) (pitt cup) in 2nd round
17-18: missed playoffs
18-19: cup
 
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The blues have played in the 2nd round multiple times and the conference finals before. Just couldn’t get through when the hawks were a dynasty and the kings won in alternating years
Excuse the hyperbole in describing a decade-long trend. Let’s agree they regularly underperformed in the playoffs compared to regular season record and personnel.
 
Other than in 14-15 when they were the #1 seed and lost to the wild in the 1st round. That’s not true and your just generalizing

Gotta look at the context. They either lost to the hawks or Kings or the team that ended up as the western conference finals rep.

It’s just a widely believed generalization.
 
This. The blues winning actually more speaks to the rangers old core potentially having had another run in them IF they could have infused young talent and a difference maker or two without moving the core players
Their young talent and core > our young talent and core.

Schwartz, Tarasenko, Pietrangelo, Parayko, Dunn, Edmundson, Sundqvist, Barbashev, Sanford, Blais, Thomas
 
Other than in 14-15 when they were the #1 seed and lost to the wild in the 1st round. That’s not true and your just generalizing

Gotta look at the context. They either lost to the hawks or Kings or the team that ended up as the western conference finals rep.

It’s just a widely believed generalization.
You’ll have to excuse me. I’ve been watching the Blues for about thirty years.
 
My first thought is that Andersson is the prospect he is referring to. @Edge has said before that Andersson is someone the Rangers could see as an asset to include in a deal to either draft one of the prospects they like in this draft or go in a deal for a young player they like, so I wouldn’t be shocked at it happening.
His value is low now. I'd hold on to Lias. Plus, his upside is...really...the kind of player you want to keep. If the Rangers have totally given up on him, sure, trade him. But otherwise, keep him.
 
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