Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XLV

[Off Sides]

What type of team should they be building?

If they want one where the RD produces lots of points and that is an advantage and maybe that causes a disadvantage elsewhere, they can have that.

If they want one where the RD produces less, no advantage, and they have a possible advantage elsewhere, they are going to have to change things up.

Seems to me sort of like a zero sum game, except they already have what will likely be an advantage in one area. Not many teams can put up 100 plus points out of two RDs, maybe even 130 plus out of all three.

 

[Rangers394]

When people mention guys like Barkov, Eichel, how do we expect to pay them and who are we moving for them? We already have huge contracts for Trouba and Panarin and will have another one with Mika and who knows who else.

Then on top of that, who are we trading for them? Picks and prospects? Now we have Kreider-Mika-Kakko..Panarin-Barkov/Eichel-Buch-who also needs a contract.

Nice top 6 but how do we add depth for our bottom 6 and defense when we are paying our top 6 30 million+ with no assets? We become a worse version of Toronto. It just makes no sense and they are moves this team shouldn't even dream about making at this time.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

When people mention guys like Barkov, Eichel, how do we expect to pay them and who are we moving for them? We already have huge contracts for Trouba and Panarin and will have another one with Mika and who knows who else.

Then on top of that, who are we trading for them? Picks and prospects? Now we have Kreider-Mika-Kakko..Panarin-Barkov/Eichel-Buch-who also needs a contract.

Nice top 6 but how do we add depth for our bottom 6 and defense when we are paying our top 6 30 million+ with no assets? We become a worse version of Toronto. It just makes no sense and they are moves this team shouldn't even dream about making at this time.

What do you think ADA will be earning in 1-2 years' time?

 

[Rangers394]

What do you think ADA will be earning in 1-2 years' time?

Not sure to be honest. I usually don't try to predict contracts since they are all different and they are tough to predict but i definitely think he will make too much for us to keep him with Trouble already making 8 and Fox looking good. Plus Nils is coming in too.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Not sure to be honest. I usually don't try to predict contracts since they are all different and they are tough to predict but i definitely think he will make too much for us to keep him with Trouble already making 8 and Fox looking good. Plus Nils is coming in too.

Maybe, but I think to expect him to step in and be as much of a positive as DeAngelo is asking too much.

IF there is a Cirelli trade to the Rangers, he is the guy who I figure would go the other way.

 

[Rangers394]

Maybe, but I think to expect him to step in and be as much of a positive as DeAngelo is asking too much.

IF there is a Cirelli trade to the Rangers, he is the guy who I figure would go the other way.

I don't think anyone is expecting Nils to do what DeAngelo did, i think it's more about the money. Do we need to be paying DeAngelo all that money when our right side already has Fox and Trouba with another guy coming in? Nils can be a positive in another way, and i'm a big DeAngelo fan but i don't think it's smart to have that much money invested in the defense when we have 2 guys there already.

If we can find a way to keep him? Do it for sure, i think he'll be a nice piece long term and we haven't had a dman like that in years but we also have to be smart and use our cap space wisely.


And as for Cirelli, yes please.

 

[PB37]

Just wanted to stop in and say that I'm a big fan of the treasure trove of riches that your team has in the pipeline on defense and I think your current core of youth on the blueline for the pro squad is pretty solid too. If K'Andre Miller hits on his potential... woof. Your top 4 will be a real force in this league if that happens.

 

[Rangers394]

Just wanted to stop in and say that I'm a big fan of the treasure trove of riches that your team has in the pipeline on defense and I think your current core of youth on the blueline in pro squad is pretty solid too. If K'Andre Miller hits on his potential... woof. Your top 4 will be a real force in this league if that happens.

Thanks. For the first time in perhaps 20+ years, we actually have dmen that are worth a shit, McDonagh and prime Staal not included. Feels good.

 

[Off Sides]

Rangers would be lucky to get 50-60 points out of any 2nd line center trade.

 

[mas0764]

Rangers were very high on Krebs last year.

Not sure they go the ADA for prospects route though.

At least not for those prospects.

 

[mas0764]

The idea being trading DeAngelo is that you can acquire a cornerstone piece in return.

Nurse is a good player. Theodore and Lindholm are great players. I'd want an exceptional LHD or center in return for DeAngelo.

I'd keep DeAngelo otherwise.

Agreed. I’m not looking to deal DeAngelo. Krebs isn’t cutting it.

Zegras might be another story. Probably would still want an add.

 

[mas0764]

That's also not a terrible strategy, given NYR's position of strength at offensive RD right now.

I don't know if Fox or Trouba will ever be quite as good as ADA on the powerplay, but I think we can sacrifice that edge to make the defense better on the left side and add roster depth.

It’s a terrible strategy if they took “decent” roster players instead of A+ prospects simply because they have some stupid fixation on making the playoffs next year.

 

[DanielBrassard]

I do wonder if there is a deal to be made for Cirelli. Tampa will try to move others first but if they find it tough to do could something around Chytil+ be of interest.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Adding high priced players at this point isnt smart. Add near ready prospects and picks and keep building. A guy I'd like to pry away from Arizona is Hayton but I dont know what that would cost.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

What's Cirelli gonna want for money and what are we giving up for him? Personally I'd prefer to keep my assets and continue to build from within.

 

[Rangers394]

What's Cirelli gonna want for money and what are we giving up for him? Personally I'd prefer to keep my assets and continue to build from within.

This is my plan too. We will be in a position to add some players in a few years when we are ready to compete, no need to blow all of them now and then we have to deal other players to replace the guys we traded away, like we did with Gaborik when we got Nash

 

[aufheben]

What's Cirelli gonna want for money and what are we giving up for him? Personally I'd prefer to keep my assets and continue to build from within.

Whatever Tampa wants. That dude would solve so many of our problems, and the Rangers are apparently inept at developing their own forwards of a similar caliber.

You say “continue to build from within”...when did we even start?

 

[Off Sides]

Adding in players with sights set on next year when currently are slated to have ~10M tied up in Smith and Staal, ~7.5M in dead buyout cap hits, and 8.5M in Lundqvist is Rangerific.

 

[Rangers394]

Whatever Tampa wants. That dude would solve so many of our problems, and the Rangers are apparently inept at developing their own forwards of a similar caliber.

You say “continue to build from within”, when did we even start?

Not sure what you're talking about when you ask when did we even start. We started when we traded Stepan and added 2 1st rounders that season. The team blew the Lias pick but i'm not sure what you expect the team to do? Trade all their assets away for the next hot name of the summer? Then when he isn't good enough, trade him for a few depth players and now we need another center? It's a never ending cycle that we've seen before. Cirelli is good but again, what will he cost and how much will it cost to sign him? This team has a scary lack of depth, that should be the thing we need to fix. Hate to tell you but we aren't a Cirelli away from winning a cup.
We haven't won shit for 26 going on 27 years because we never figured out how to draft a forward that can lead this team, and now people want to trade picks/prospects instead of learning from our mistakes and using them properly for once. It never ends

 

[aufheben]

Not sure what you're talking about when you ask when did we even start. We started when we traded Stepan and added 2 1st rounders that season. The team blew the Lias pick but i'm not sure what you expect the team to do? Trade all their assets away for the next hot name of the summer? Then when he isn't good enough, trade him for a few depth players and now we need another center? It's a never ending cycle that we've seen before. Cirelli is good but again, what will he cost and how much will it cost to sign him? This team has a scary lack of depth, that should be the thing we need to fix. Hate to tell you but we aren't a Cirelli away from winning a cup.
We haven't won shit for 26 going on 27 years because we never figured out how to draft a forward that can lead this team, and now people want to trade picks/prospects instead of learning from our mistakes and using them properly for once. It never ends

All the impact players on this team were traded for. Except Shesterkin because goaltending is just never a problem for us for whatever reason.

 

[Rangers394]

All the impact players on this team were traded for. Except Shesterkin because goaltending is just never a problem for us for whatever reason.

That's true but at some point, that needs to change. We can start by not blowing top 10 picks and drafting legit starters top 10. And just because we haven't developed a star forward in centuries doesn't mean we should trade away everything and stop trying. Cirelli would be a nice add if he comes cheap but i'd rather hold onto what we have and go from there when a few more holes are filled. If we suck another year and luck into another top 3 pick because of it, so be it.

 

[aufheben]

You say “use the picks properly” as if that’s not what management has been trying to do already.

 

[Rangers394]

You say “use the picks properly” as if that’s not what management has been trying to do already.

They definitely blew it with Lias. For some reason, this team just can't draft a good player with a top 10 pick when they do have them. We haven't drafted high a lot of times in the past 10 years but when we do, we blew it twice. Need to hit on them.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Whatever Tampa wants. That dude would solve so many of our problems, and the Rangers are apparently inept at developing their own forwards of a similar caliber.

You say “continue to build from within”...when did we even start?

Chytil, Kakko, Shesterkin, Miller, Lindqvist, Barron, Buchnevich, Jones, Robertson, Hendrickson, and Georgiev are all good prospects or current players we drafted. Cirelli would definately solve some problems but given the assets to acquire him and the cap hit he would command he would cause a lot of problems too. We arent getting him for a handful of castaways.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

They definitely blew it with Lias. For some reason, this team just can't draft a good player with a top 10 pick when they do have them. We haven't drafted high a lot of times in the past 10 years but when we do, we blew it twice. Need to hit on them.

What's wrong with Kakko?