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Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XLV

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Rangers394 said:
Why did i see someone mention trading for Kopitar who makes 10 million?

why are we hiring a new coach when the problem is the roster is bad?
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The coach and roster can be bad at the same time.

I don't feel the need to fire Quinn. There were enough good things that happened this year for him to be safe for the time being, but things do need to change. The system is ass and is a bigger problem than the roster (which has a promising core but all around is also ass.)

We've seen this team perform better with less talent than it has now. I'm confident they will make moves to fill in the depth roles (and it will be a mix of both good and bad) but if they continue to play as passive as they do, they will continue to have problems unless they become so mega talented that it doesn't matter - If thats their plan I say good luck with that.
 
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Kopitar is a hell of a player. He's stuck on a horrific team. I could easily see him meshing with Kakko or Kravtsov and bringing their games several levels higher. If you read the proposal it included Staal, Strome and TDA going back the other way. You do realize that will probably be 15 million off the cap next year. Honestly, L.A. would probably rather have Strome, TDA and our later first. I'd still do it. Kopitar is a stud on faceoffs and on this team I'd expect him to be around 80 points. He shows up in the playoffs as well. He might only have 3-4 good years left but his value developing our young wings would be worth it.
 
usekakkorightquinn said:
Kopitar is a hell of a player. He's stuck on a horrific team. I could easily see him meshing with Kakko or Kravtsov and bringing their games several levels higher. If you read the proposal it included Staal, Strome and TDA going back the other way. You do realize that will probably be 15 million off the cap next year. Honestly, L.A. would probably rather have Strome, TDA and our later first. I'd still do it. Kopitar is a stud on faceoffs and on this team I'd expect him to be around 80 points. He shows up in the playoffs as well. He might only have 3-4 good years left but his value developing our young wings would be worth it.
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With that 15 million, we should be resigning our guys or using that space to bring in solid depth players, not wasting it on a mid 30s C making 10 million a year. Awful idea
 
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I really like that Deangelo for Glass or Krebs idea. Would prefer Krebs because he's younger and less injury-prone, but it seems like a good and fair trade for both sides.
 
Here's a question:

Could the Rangers, instead of looking for a young up and coming 2C, find a youngish or younger veteran signed fora few more seasons to help be an insulator as the 2/3C? I look around the league and wonder if a guy like Kyle Turris with $$ retained, say so he would have a $4m cap hit might not fit the bill for a few more seasons. He was underutilized and still had an okay season at 31 points in 62 games. This was is first year under 50 in the faceoff circle since 2012-2013. I believe Nasvhille, if they lose, will be looking for whole-sale changes and Turris has been the odd-man out this season with the acquisition of Duchene.

Are there other guys out there in similar circumstances that could be nice buy-low candidates who could provide some insulation?
 
NYR Viper said:
Here's a question:

Could the Rangers, instead of looking for a young up and coming 2C, find a youngish or younger veteran signed fora few more seasons to help be an insulator as the 2/3C? I look around the league and wonder if a guy like Kyle Turris with $$ retained, say so he would have a $4m cap hit might not fit the bill for a few more seasons. He was underutilized and still had an okay season at 31 points in 62 games. This was is first year under 50 in the faceoff circle since 2012-2013. I believe Nasvhille, if they lose, will be looking for whole-sale changes and Turris has been the odd-man out this season with the acquisition of Duchene.

Are there other guys out there in similar circumstances that could be nice buy-low candidates who could provide some insulation?
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Bozak is the answer to that question, St Louis seem desperate to move him with their cap crunch and he could likely be had for almost nothing.
 
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NYR Viper said:
Here's a question:

Could the Rangers, instead of looking for a young up and coming 2C, find a youngish or younger veteran signed fora few more seasons to help be an insulator as the 2/3C? I look around the league and wonder if a guy like Kyle Turris with $$ retained, say so he would have a $4m cap hit might not fit the bill for a few more seasons. He was underutilized and still had an okay season at 31 points in 62 games. This was is first year under 50 in the faceoff circle since 2012-2013. I believe Nasvhille, if they lose, will be looking for whole-sale changes and Turris has been the odd-man out this season with the acquisition of Duchene.

Are there other guys out there in similar circumstances that could be nice buy-low candidates who could provide some insulation?
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I suppose it's possible they'd be open to it but I can't imagine it'd be for a guy with more than 1 or 2 years left. At that point you might as well just give Strome a new deal.

I think if the Rangers are going to add a stop-gap it'll probably on defense as opposed to up front.
 
I Eat Crow said:
Exactly this. Give Miller the start in the AHL. Buy out Staal and trade Smith at the deadline for a mid rounder to a team looking for defensive depth for a playoff run. Give Miller his cup of coffee if things are going well after the deadline. Worst case, a guy like Crawley or Reunanen gets a cup in Smith's place. Can they really be any worse at this juncture?

I'm sticking by my guns here and saying that Robertson comes into camp in November, makes the team and sticks.

Lindgren-Fox
Robertson-DeAngelo (if not dealt)
Smith-Trouba
7th D (Hajek?)

Still a very green group overall but will end up miles better than this past year, IMO.
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Can Crawley or Reunanen be any worse than Smith? Absolutely, they could be a lot worse.
 
NYR Viper said:
Here's a question:

Could the Rangers, instead of looking for a young up and coming 2C, find a youngish or younger veteran signed fora few more seasons to help be an insulator as the 2/3C? I look around the league and wonder if a guy like Kyle Turris with $$ retained, say so he would have a $4m cap hit might not fit the bill for a few more seasons. He was underutilized and still had an okay season at 31 points in 62 games. This was is first year under 50 in the faceoff circle since 2012-2013. I believe Nasvhille, if they lose, will be looking for whole-sale changes and Turris has been the odd-man out this season with the acquisition of Duchene.

Are there other guys out there in similar circumstances that could be nice buy-low candidates who could provide some insulation?
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I'd be up for that but I think I'd need a little extra incentive to take on his term. Something around Turris at 4 + 2nd rounder for Andersson
 
KreiderBomb said:
Staal is a lot of what is wrong with our d. Smith I can handle but we need someone else than Staal. If we can replace Staal with Miller we will be more mobile even if he isnt quite ready.
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My thought is that a ufa option won’t be s much better option so deal w it for a year and hope Hajek can step up or Miller years it up in the AHL / earns a call up
 
GoAwayStaal said:
Eh it would be a prospect and a young roster LHD plus.

depends how far they think Krebs is from contributing. He bounced back from his injury pretty well.
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Also depends on what they envision for the right side and Tony's role on the PP and such.

If Nils is the answer and he's a year or two off, are they comfortable with some variation of Trouba, Fox, long-term and then either Smith or an FA for a year or so with little insurance?

Lacking quality RD was a problem for a long time and it's not easily fixed, either.
 
Charlie Conway said:
Also depends on what they envision for the right side and Tony's role on the PP and such.

If Nils is the answer and he's a year or two off, are they comfortable with some variation of Trouba, Fox, long-term and then either Smith or an FA for a year or so with little insurance?

Lacking quality RD was a problem for a long time and it's not easily fixed, either.
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Just for clarity's sake, I am in no way advocating moving DeAngelo. I've been steadfast on moving Lundkvist if need be before DeAngelo.

But IF for what ever reason, the FO decides to move on, They'd need to get back a pretty nice package. I think a big, young LHD and a center prospect with top 6 potential is a nice starting point.

Also can't the Rangers drag Nils over here for camp whenever it starts even if he's mid season in Sweden? Like if he makes it clear that he's ready to move on, I'm pretty sure they can make it happen.
 
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Does Krebs project as a center or winger these day?

I'd also be curious to know what thoughts on Tony around the league are. You'd have to assume his lack of ability to play defense hurts his value, but I'd wonder how much.
 
Oscar Lindberg said:
Does Krebs project as a center or winger these day?

I'd also be curious to know what thoughts on Tony around the league are. You'd have to assume his lack of ability to play defense hurts his value, but I'd wonder how much.
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The guy was #4 (#3 at even strength) in scoring from his position while being used as Staal's colostomy bag.

RH OFD aren't exactly in abundance around the league and hes got control. I'd assume his value is pretty immense.
 
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Really gotta get at least one good NHLer back in a deal for DeAngelo. Can't pin your hopes entirely on prospects.

Glass would be a nice get but the Knights will really need him going forward. Stastny's not going to be a guy who they rely on into his late 30's.
 
A couple potential 1 for 1 deals I thought of

DeAngelo for Nurse/Klefbom

DeAngelo for Shea Theodore

DeAngelo for Lindholm
 
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GoAwayStaal said:
The guy was #4 (#3 at even strength) in scoring from his position while being used as Staal's colostomy bag.

RH OFD aren't exactly in abundance around the league and hes got control. I'd assume his value is pretty immense.
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I mean I get it. Everyone knows he can score

But what we believe to be the case, does not represent others feelings on him.

I think we're kidding ourselves if you don't believe some teams may strictly see him as a PP specialist. And there is value in that, but how much value is a different conversation.
 
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