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Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XLV

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Amazing Kreiderman said:
Only conditions based on players signing with the team. Conditions based on performance as still allowed
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I completely forgot that player performance conditions could even be a thing. Didn't the James Neal trade have some wacky stuff?

Surprised that was still in there because it could lead to a team wanting to manipulate a player's playing time, which is something the player's union wouldn't want I would assume.
 
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Henrik’s neighbor believes he is definitely staying in New York (not going to Sweden). The kids are in school here and he wants to stay in the US and keep playing for 2 more years, possibly with another team.
 
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TheGortonConspiracy said:
Henrik’s neighbor believes he is definitely staying in New York (not going to Sweden). The kids are in school here and he wants to stay in the US and keep playing for 2 more years, possibly with another team.
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That means another contract. How much interest around the league will there be for a 40 year old goalie? Maybe Seattle as a backup/mentor but it is on the wrong coast...
 
mike14 said:
There could be up to 8.5m reasons why.
Personally I think you'd have to eat to much cap-hit to make it worthwhile, but if moving Hank gives you the space to acquire a piece for the future you do it without hesitating.
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No one is taking him in a trade, retained salary or not

And buying him out gives some cap relief that immediately has to be used to pay Georgiev

Trade Georgiev and ride with Hank until his contract is done.
 
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Hank doesn’t make $8.5m. His real salary I believe is $5.5. If the Rangers retain half thats $2.75m in real dollars. I’d have a hard time seeing a team, not totally against the cap and who has a need in goal not at least inquiring. For example, Would Chicago give it a go? Or Colorado? Or Dallas? Calgary?
 
Oscar Lindberg said:
No one is taking him a trade, retained salary or not

And buying him out gives some cap relief that immediately has to be used to pay Georgiev

Trade Georgiev and ride with Hank until his contract is done.
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Agree that a buyout would be stupid.
But NHL GMs make so many baffling decisions that I'd never say 'never' when it comes to speculating trades
 
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bleedblue94 said:
The world where he is a ufa in one season and you're not going/willing to pay to resign him...
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He has two years left on his contract. If you're not willing to pay arguably one of the 10 best centers in the NHL market value for his services, you might as well pack up the team at that point. Unless the Panthers are damn sure he's going to walk as a FA there's no reason to even consider moving him.
 
NYR Viper said:
Hank doesn’t make $8.5m. His real salary I believe is $5.5. If the Rangers retain half thats $2.75m in real dollars. I’d have a hard time seeing a team, not totally against the cap and who has a need in goal not at least inquiring. For example, Would Chicago give it a go? Or Colorado? Or Dallas? Calgary?
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I dunno, his real salary is lower than the cap hit but the cap hit at 8.5 mill is a killer in a flat cap world regardless
 
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Pawnee Rangers said:
I would too. I understand the theory of not passing up on the BAP, but I feel like the team is at the point where they need to start finding the "right" guys. And if 3 and 5 gives them that ability, they should at least consider.
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I don't have confidence that they will draft the right guys unless it's completely obvious like Kakko and Lafreniere. This regime already wasted a top ten pick on Lias.
 
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Oscar Lindberg said:
I dunno, his real salary is lower than the cap hit but the cap hit at 8.5 mill is a killer in a flat cap world regardless
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This is true so the teams would need to get creative but there are other teams with not so great contracts. For example, Calgary may not be in love with paying Bennett $2.55m. If they retain half of the cap hit all of a sudden they’re only adding about $1.7m.

Vancouver has a few contracts I’m sure they’d like to offload and if they don’t re-sign Markstrom they may like the idea of Hank for a season to play 30-35 games with Demko. Roussel is an example.
 
NYR Viper said:
Hank doesn’t make $8.5m. His real salary I believe is $5.5. If the Rangers retain half thats $2.75m in real dollars. I’d have a hard time seeing a team, not totally against the cap and who has a need in goal not at least inquiring. For example, Would Chicago give it a go? Or Colorado? Or Dallas? Calgary?
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But more importantly, would Lundqvist?
 
GeorgeKaplan said:
Well, he’s got a NMC, and I can’t think of a situation where it would be more beneficial for him to accept a trade then get bought out, if he even wants to go anywhere else, which I don’t believe he does
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Yeah that’s where I’m thinking too

He probably realizes his chances to win a cup are done, and would like to just finish his career where it started. But maybe I’m dead wrong and he wants to go from team to team cup chasing, assuming those teams would have him

Fans essentially looking for an exit strategy for the guy seems a bit extreme, especially when he kinda just showed he can still play as long as the team in front of him isn’t complete garbage
 
Oscar Lindberg said:
Yeah that’s where I’m thinking too

He probably realizes his chances to win a cup are done, and would like to just finish his career where it started. But maybe I’m dead wrong and he wants to go from team to team cup chasing, assuming those teams would have him

Fans essentially looking for an exit strategy for the guy seems a bit extreme, especially when he kinda just showed he can still play as long as the team in front of him isn’t complete garbage
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Yeah, everything I’ve heard the last few years, and it’s kind of played out this way too, has been that he likes the idea of having played for the Rangers his whole career more than leaving to chase a cup.

I think he’s still a good goaltender when you compare him to others around the league and the people that think he’s completely cooked are only comparing him to what his peak was (one of the best goaltenders to ever play). I do think a bigger workload negatively affects his play at this point, but surprise surprise, if they trade Georgiev and he stays, he’s in an ideal situation
 
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Trxjw said:
He has two years left on his contract. If you're not willing to pay arguably one of the 10 best centers in the NHL market value for his services, you might as well pack up the team at that point. Unless the Panthers are damn sure he's going to walk as a FA there's no reason to even consider moving him.
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Why are they financially making the investment? I understand why they should from the competitive side, but there are numerous reports that unless they make a deep run than talon is getting replaced by the guy that was driving the shop previously with the analytic culture (not Rowe, the guy that gave Rowe the orders bc apparently Rowe was a figurehead). They aren't resigning Hoffman or dadanov, they traded trocheck for mostly prospects, they are apparently going to shop huberdeau this summer (believe Friedman reported that and I saw others), they want to cut salary. They took a chance and it hasn't worked. If they are doing that then how do they justify the financial investment in barkov? I know they should, but if they are running a team on spreadsheets why would they commit to the kind of money it would cost to sign a stud like that when they could trade him for multiple cheap NHL players that are controllable? If they aren't signing him long term than they have to trade him...
 
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Oscar Lindberg said:
I dunno, his real salary is lower than the cap hit but the cap hit at 8.5 mill is a killer in a flat cap world regardless
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The cap hit would be $4.25m if they retained half his salary.

Also, his salary is $4.5m ($1m was a signing bonus already paid) so an acquiring team would only be spending $2.25m in real dollars if it was half retention.
 
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