anything that involves karlsson is awful
Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XLV
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anything that involves karlsson is awful
thethirdhockeyman91
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BBKers
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Rangers have wanted Trouba for years. This I know and have stated several times. Will they give up a Chevy premium to get him now or take their chances that he doesn’t resign long term elsewhere & wait until UFA one year ahead? Hard call. I have a very good connection involved in the Peg. I need to talk with him again. Soon.
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Is it possible the Stars wants Zuccarello back but do not want to give up the 1st round pick? Could the Stars and the Rangers come to another agreement? What is the 2020 1st round pick worth to the Stars?
Could another team sign Zuccarello and trade him back to the Stars for the Stars 2020 2nd round pick?
Could another team sign Zuccarello and trade him back to the Stars for the Stars 2020 2nd round pick?
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Doubtful. Expect a resigning of Zucc in Dallas at 4 years at $6,5M. Basically replacing the Spezza money. I actually heard there might some interest in NY in signing Spezza on a one year deal. Guy that told me was drunk, but he has good connections.
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Imagine how much cap space the Rangers might have when Heiskanen hits restricted free agency. By order of the Peaky Blinders.
see thats why i think you might be able to get more cause there are alot more options. the potential trade partners is limited at the deadline into good teams with cap space looking to add a winger...over the summer it can be anyone. and it is also why unless one of the centers falls to a pick and you can trade directly into that spot right before the pick to grab him, i'm leaning toward moving him for a 2020 1st plus prospects...target the teams that every offseason are set to break out next year and finally make the playoffs and then year after year they suck. teams like buffalo and edmonton. get their unprotected 2020 1st while they stupidly think they are gonna be a playoff team and then hope it becomes a lottery pick
and how much of that interest in trouba came before they were a rebuilding team? i don't count interest prior to the last 2 years cause its a totally different scenario...
also our interest came from trouba holding out and demanding a trade and us hoping that we could steal him for pennies on the dollar, not pay for value IMO
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Interest means interest. Serious such. Not willing to give what it took is another thing. I would not give up a premium to get him now, but would take my chances and wait a year. The question is however is how Jeff Gordon is thinking. I think/hope he is patient here. But you never know
I’m pretty savvy to that stuff. I like to key in on guys early who seem to be relucant to extend or sign long term with their clubs and then sniff out if there’s chatter or feelings the rangers are his preferred landing spot.
A lot of these kids probably talk to the rangers in their draft process, and know the team likes him and are hoping somehow they get drafted here, and fall in love with the idea of New York and the rangers and the 1st class organization, and if they end up somewhere they aren’t happy, if they got the right agents and a backbone, you start hearing the whispers over the years.
To tie it back, and I could be wrong, but I think trouba wants to sign long term with the rangers, and I think that’s gonna really hurt the market. I’m of the mind, there maybe one/two other teams that have a shot at trading for him and getting him to sign an extension instead of holding off for UFA and just signing with the tram he wants to for market value. I think those teams might be Chicago/Pittsburgh/Colorado/ and maybe Detroit. I don’t think Chicago can fit him, pitt/Colorado might be game, Detroit would be a dark horse and doing it to secure his services.
So to me it’s the rangers, maybe those teams in for a trade and extend, and everyone else as a rental.
I think gorts can beat any rental and it still
Be a fair deal, xfactor would one of those above teams making an aggressive move for him.
And before people say it, I don’t see jersey or Brooklyn being an option. He’s not gonna sign there when in worst case scenario he can just play out the year whereever ala karlsson and then sign with the rangers. Assuming jersey/Brooklyn doesn’t come in with an annual that’s like 2m N of the what the rangers would be willing to go to
Nah to it just being clickbait rumors.
the rangers have had trouba targeted for years. This is something that has the feel of something that’s been in the makings for awhile to be honest
that is my feeling. there will be enough interest to make the call but we aren't going to pay the price
we've had trouba targeted for years according to the same media that has had us targeting karlsson for years
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There was serious talk when Trouba was holding out. But the ask was too rich to swallow.
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I’d have to put them on first
Beacon
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While we dont know that our prospects will reach their ceiling, we don't know that they won't. There's a realistic possibility that Shesterkin, Kakko, Chytil, Kravtsov, Fox, ADA and K'Andre wind up first line/pair players. Hell, we don't know that late bloomer Vinni doesn't follow the path of another late bloomer St. Louis who also couldn't score an NHL goal at an even older age despite killing it in the minors, nor where Lundkvist lands.
It may sound like having too many good players is a nice problem, but the idea of dumping a first liner just entering his prime in a few years because we're paying a broken down Trouba and a 33-year-old Panarin would be a nightmare.
While I'm not sure I agree, I could easily see the Rangers viewing Trouba as a foundational piece. They're one of a handful of teams that could acquire him while not sending much salary back.
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So when I think Chevy (like I know him, I just can’t spell his name) I think Sean Burke bc of the obvious similiarites if your old enough to remember them as players
And so thinking of Chevy makes me think of this funny Sean Burke. I grew up going to games all my life. Not comparable to people who were season ticketholders, but I went to a lot of games over the years and as I got older and I wasn’t/couldn’t play I started chirping the opposing players. When I got of the age where i could, I start finding tickets anywhich way and would talk to the usher wherever I wanted to sit, just talk him/her up and then head down as if I was supposed to be there and get up close. As the years went on i unbeknowingly ended up settling into the section which happened to be next to all the people players girlfriends and family and whoever. So I’ve been told and overheard some funny stories over the years.
Anyway one time when I’m like somewhere between 20-23. And I’m sitting behind the benches, I’m with a couple friends this time, and i started heckling Sean Burke who was backing up on the bench. And he just freaking turned around and looked at me in a way like, kid don’t F with me tonight, I’m a bad mood and I’d open a can on you punk. One of the only times in my life, someone gave off an aggressive vibe towards me, that actually kinda shook me and made me think, I don’t want any part of that. My friends were like ‘he just gave you a serial killer look’
Sean Burke, Tim Chevy
Chevy, Burkie
And so thinking of Chevy makes me think of this funny Sean Burke. I grew up going to games all my life. Not comparable to people who were season ticketholders, but I went to a lot of games over the years and as I got older and I wasn’t/couldn’t play I started chirping the opposing players. When I got of the age where i could, I start finding tickets anywhich way and would talk to the usher wherever I wanted to sit, just talk him/her up and then head down as if I was supposed to be there and get up close. As the years went on i unbeknowingly ended up settling into the section which happened to be next to all the people players girlfriends and family and whoever. So I’ve been told and overheard some funny stories over the years.
Anyway one time when I’m like somewhere between 20-23. And I’m sitting behind the benches, I’m with a couple friends this time, and i started heckling Sean Burke who was backing up on the bench. And he just freaking turned around and looked at me in a way like, kid don’t F with me tonight, I’m a bad mood and I’d open a can on you punk. One of the only times in my life, someone gave off an aggressive vibe towards me, that actually kinda shook me and made me think, I don’t want any part of that. My friends were like ‘he just gave you a serial killer look’
Sean Burke, Tim Chevy
Chevy, Burkie
I've heard some speculation that Trouba wants to go to Detroit and so there's always the "if you acquire him will he re-sign if he wants to play for Detroit instead??" thing but obviously if you trade for him it's because you already have a deal in place pretty much (I would hope)
Hard to tell how much of that is "he's from Michigan!" and how much is real
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