Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XLIV

[kinger8998]

He turned 26 last month.

I'm sick and tired of your lies.

congratulations, you genuinely made me laugh. nice to see some lightheartedness on here

 

[Thirty One]

congratulations, you genuinely made me laugh. nice to see some lightheartedness on here

He was dead serious.

 

[ETTER DE]

cant tell if this is a joke or not lol if it isnt....zibanejad is 25. if we get a top pick in 2020, that player will be in the NHL by 2021-2022 at the latest. zibanejad will only he 28. another 2 years and that player, along with kravtsov and kaapo will be contributing nicely and into their NHL careers. this is good

He has only three years left before he is UFA. He is gone after that. He will be 29 years old then. Older than Panarin is now. Even a month older than Karlsson is now. Do you think Rangers will resign him?

Most likely is he traded within a year or two. If the rebuilding continues there is no point in keeping him. He will most likely be traded for a young defense man.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

He has only three years left before he is UFA. He is gone after that. He will be 29 years old then. Older than Panarin is now. Even a month older than Karlsson is now. Do you think Rangers will resign him?

If they're not bringing him back or trading him, it means that either someone overtook him on the depth chart (which would be great), the rebuild isn't going the way we'd hope it would be (which is bad) or last year was a fluke and he isn't all that good (which is worse than #2.)

It's also possible that last year was a peak year but he settles into being a very good player. Those guys have value too and won't burn a hole in your pocket.

 

[Waivers]

Kreider needs to be used to continue flipping. We don’t have enough yet. I would be onboard with either getting Panarin, creating a hockey trade involving Kreider or taking on bad contracts from another team for multiple assets.

 

[Vitto79]

Trade a 3rd for Marleau and Kapanen, buy out Marleau so he can sign with Toronto for 1m. They save 5.2m in cap space, while only giving up Kapanen.

Our very own Teravainen deal.

Where do I sign up

 

[RangerBoy]

Let's start with the obvious: Surely you'll continue to get offers for the No. 2 pick at the Draft. Are you going to keep it?
I think it's fair to say we are going to take that pick. It's our job, my job in particular, to listen to anything anybody will say when the phone rings on any of those things. But we're in a pretty good spot. We know we're going to get a pretty good player. So like I said, the opportunity to pick this high at the highest the Rangers have ever picked, that's where we want to be.

Henrik Lundqvist earlier this month told Expressen, a newspaper in Sweden, that he would like to finish his career with the Rangers "but if the club has other ideas, I know I'll have to listen." What is your take on Lundqvist's future?
Hank has two more years and we're prepared that he's going to be a Ranger. We'll move forward like that. I think that if you look over the season, the first part of the year was great, second part not as good, he made the All-Star team. … So we know that Hank's still a good goalie. Obviously what we're doing, we're going to need goaltending. We're acting like Hank's back and wants to be back.

 

[kovazub94]

I was expecting an editorial take or reading between the lines on how there’s a unsaid conflict / tension between Hank and FO.

 

[Rongomania]

Anyone else out there feel this could be Buchs breakout year? So many guys on this team that this could happen to. It’s very interesting, tons of uncracked talent that’s clearly always been there.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

Trade a 3rd for Marleau and Kapanen, buy out Marleau so he can sign with Toronto for 1m. They save 5.2m in cap space, while only giving up Kapanen.

Our very own Teravainen deal.

Good idea, and a trade I’d make, but Kapanen ain’t Teuvo man. Teuvo is a f***ing beast, a wizard with the puck. I think Kap is more of a Hagelin plus.

 

[effen]

Anyone else out there feel this could be Buchs breakout year? So many guys on this team that this could happen to. It’s very interesting, tons of uncracked talent that’s clearly always been there.

I think he'll unlock at 27 or 28. He's not really a physical attribute guy so those declining after 25 isn't gonna hurt him as much as experience is gonna help him.

I could see 55 points this year in some worlds but more as a complementary guy on the line than the driver.

 

[Leetch3]

Good idea, and a trade I’d make, but Kapanen ain’t Teuvo man. Teuvo is a ****ing beast, a wizard with the puck. I think Kap is more of a Hagelin plus.

when teuvo was traded he was coming off a season with 35 points in 78 games at age 21, kapanen last year had 44 points in 78 games at age 22...they were both former 1st round picks (18th & 22nd overall)...

obviously teuvo exploded this year and had 76 points, 3 years after the trade and no guarantee kapanen will improve like that...but at the time of the trade the comparison isn't that far off and in a deal like that its worth the gamble

 

[eco's bones]

If they're not bringing him back or trading him, it means that either someone overtook him on the depth chart (which would be great), the rebuild isn't going the way we'd hope it would be (which is bad) or last year was a fluke and he isn't all that good (which is worse than #2.)

It's also possible that last year was a peak year but he settles into being a very good player. Those guys have value too and won't burn a hole in your pocket.

......or he'll want a 7 or 8 year contract. And would you give that to a 29 year old player? I very likely wouldn't. So however sad this might be for some I think it's best to get use to the idea that this might be Mika's last contract with us and that he might even get moved in his rental year.

For those who think he's special---Henrik was special for a very long time too....and look at him now. Most of us are ready to turn the page on him. Age catches up with everyone and it catches up a lot faster in professional sports.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

......or he'll want a 7 or 8 year contract. And would you give that to a 29 year old player? I very likely wouldn't. So however sad this might be for some I think it's best to get use to the idea that this might be Mika's last contract with us and that he might even get moved in his rental year.

For those who think he's special---Henrik was special for a very long time too....and look at him now. Most of us are ready to turn the page on him. Age catches up with everyone and it catches up a lot faster in professional sports.

Will he?

We don't know that for sure (he may, but he may not.) Guys have been convinced to stick around for a shorter term in situations they're comfortable with, especially if the team is on the up and up and ready to win.

He may not be here beyond the 3 years he has left, but thats a looonnnnggg ways away. It's really silly to worry about it now and acting like it's a sure thing that hes gone (you didn't, but the guy I quoted did) in 3 years is getting wayyyy ahead of ourselves. So much can happen between now and then.

 

[eco's bones]

Will he?

We don't know that for sure (he may, but he may not.) Guys have been convinced to stick around for a shorter term in situations they're comfortable with, especially if the team is on the up and up and ready to win.

He may not be here beyond the 3 years he has left, but thats a looonnnnggg ways away. It's really silly to worry about it now and acting like it's a sure thing that hes gone (you didn't, but the guy I quoted did) in 3 years is getting wayyyy ahead of ourselves. So much can happen between now and then.

I don't know. I don't think either of us do. But would it shock you if he did? It will likely be his last real opportunity to score a big contract. I think it's realistic to see this scenario playing out exactly like this three trade deadlines from now. The 'we got to move him because he wants more than we want to give him' scenario.

Keep in mind as well--he's had two straight years of kind of shit and you would ask him to do it again this year and maybe again in 20-21. You want to take away his left wing this year and replace him with a big ? mark. What more do you want from him? I would think after 4 or 5 straight seasons of no playoffs (if that's what it comes to) he might want to leave.

 

[bobbop]

congratulations, you genuinely made me laugh. nice to see some lightheartedness on here

You’re letting him get away with that!

 

[bobbop]

Christ, I hope not!

 

[kinger8998]

i have no life so im coming out with another one of my capfriendly armchair gm’s today

 

[Vitto79]

SO the max player retention in 1 year is 3 right ?

So Spooner, save a spot if Hank waives and 1 more say Smith

That means no Namestnikov , Staal, Shatty retention possible

They can only retain on 1 contract till next year when Spooners off the books

 

[True Blue]

Christ, I hope not!

In other news, water is shockingly found to be wet.

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

In other news, water is shockingly found to be wet.

A lot of people are saying it's the wettest water.

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

Trade a 3rd for Marleau and Kapanen, buy out Marleau so he can sign with Toronto for 1m. They save 5.2m in cap space, while only giving up Kapanen.

Our very own Teravainen deal.

Would this be allowed?

 

[thethirdhockeyman91]

A name I haven’t heard brought up on these boards yet is Alex Wennberg.what do you guys think of him? His value is low right now and I feel rangers could get him cheap. He’s still young and worth the gamble I think. I would consider swapping pionk for him straight up.

 

[RangerBoy]

Gorton spoke to Carpiniello

Patient aggressiveness is how Davidson and Gorton have described the summer game plan, the acceleration of the rebuild.

“There’s a number of ways it could go at any time. There are some key issues that could come up as far as free agency, the draft, all these things. Deals come up. So just be ready for anything, understand that we have a plan in place and — JD mentioned it too — we want to stick to our plan.

We want to be as aggressive as we can at the right time. Figuring out when that is, that’s the trick.
“It’s jumping on things at the right time. It’s being patient. Seeing what opportunities arise. So we’ll do that.”

Gorton points to the Fox trade as patient aggressiveness. The Rangers could have waited until Fox became a free agent next August.

“We’re going to look to do that,” Gorton said.

“We’ll try to be as speedy with this as possible, but honestly, we’re going to do this the right way and make good decisions as we go.”

JD said no shortcuts last week.

 

[effen]

A name I haven’t heard brought up on these boards yet is Alex Wennberg.what do you guys think of him? His value is low right now and I feel rangers could get him cheap. He’s still young and worth the gamble I think. I would consider swapping pionk for him straight up.

he's a muffin who had 2 goals last year.
i feel like we could do better.