Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XLII Time for Curtis Lazar?

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Mallette. I liked him too. Him and King. They both came up around the same time. That's a great call. Would have been cool if a few more guys from that crew could have stayed for the Cup run. It would have been very cool if James Patrick and Mike Gartner stayed somehow. Maybe there was another way to acquire Larmer. Anyhow, I digress.

I can only imagine how giving up Mallette for Graves would’ve been viewed on these boards had it happened 10 or 20 years later.

Heck, even in the pre-internet days there was a lot of “I like this Graves guy, but I don’t know about the price.”
 
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Speaking of trades...Rangers tend do ok, don't they? I cant remember many hugely bad trades in the last 20 years or so. Even the "bad" ones aren't that bad. And a few real home runs.
Like, for example, trading for E Staal didn't work out but it's not like we regret it. Carolina didn't get much out of that deal either.
 
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Speaking of trades...Rangers tend do ok, don't they? I cant remember many hugely bad trades in the last 20 years or so. Even the "bad" ones aren't that bad. And a few real home runs.
Like, for example, trading for E Staal didn't work out but it's not like we regret it. Carolina didn't get much out of that deal either.
You’re correct. We’ve done fairly well. Staal trade sucked. Smith trade was ok, but re-signing him has been a disappointment. Hagelin for Emelin is one trade I f***ing hated and still hate. And, the McD trade hasn’t looked great, mostly because of how well JT’s played. But you look at Gortons asset management overall, he’s done quite well imo and I ultimately trust his decision making.
 
didn’t like it either. Home grown for a journeyman for the same role. Nah

not mentioned (and the Rangers had to make the trade) but i did like Troy Mallette a lot.
Troy Mallette was one of my favorites. I thought he had a chance to be a guy who could police the ice and score goals. Never lived up to that early promise.

Part of the reason I liked him was that back in the days the Rangers would fly commercial, I sat with him on a flight from Pittsburgh to New York. Some of you old timers may remember a game where the Rangers lost in overtime on an own goal. This flight was the next day. It was a difficult circumstance but Troy couldn’t have been nicer.
 
You’re correct. We’ve done fairly well. Staal trade sucked. Smith trade was ok, but re-signing him has been a disappointment. Hagelin for Emelin is one trade I f***ing hated and still hate. And, the McD trade hasn’t looked great, mostly because of how well JT’s played. But you look at Gortons asset management overall, he’s done quite well imo and I ultimately trust his decision making.
JT is probably the only player traded that really 'blew up in the Rangers face'. And I still don't really want him on the Rangers right now at $5.25m. They probably don't re-sign Kreider in that case.
 
JT is probably the only player traded that really 'blew up in the Rangers face'. And I still don't really want him on the Rangers right now at $5.25m. They probably don't re-sign Kreider in that case.

I think Strome almost cancels out Miller. And I also think Miller goes back to being an inconsistent 1-way 50 point player after this season. I don't think PPG is the new normal for him.

(Whether Strome goes back to 35-40 points is debatable too)
 
… but we have a top 10 center in hockey

Yeah, after Miller was drinking in Nashville the night before a game, and then had an awful game the next day against the Predators, I gave up on him as a player.

Nice for him to finally put his shit together after his 2nd trade in 15 months
 
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Yeah, after Miller was drinking in Nashville the night before a game, and then had an awful game the next day against the Predators, I gave up on him as a player.

Nice for him to finally put his shit together after his 2nd trade in 15 months
Always preferred Miller to say a guy like Hayes, but I do agree with you. He clearly has 70+ points in him, though. Maybe he went to Vancouver and finally realized he has to get his act together.
 
Yeah, after Miller was drinking in Nashville the night before a game, and then had an awful game the next day against the Predators, I gave up on him as a player.

Nice for him to finally put his shit together after his 2nd trade in 15 months
Yep. The path is important. He may have developed, but it took those two trades to wake his ass up.
Can't assume JT Miller is the same player he is now we're he still with the Rangers.
 
don't see how trading Miller blew up in the Rangers' face

he was the exact same player in Tampa and it took him flanking a top 10 center in hockey to hit the numbers he is now

he wasn't doing that here
Yes I agree. He probably doesn't develop as well were he still a Ranger. And I don't think it was a very bad trade, all told. I probably didn't make my point very well.
 
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Always preferred Miller to say a guy like Hayes, but I do agree with you. He clearly has 70+ points in him, though. Maybe he went to Vancouver and finally realized he has to get his act together.
Miller can be an elite complementary player as we saw this season and when he was on the top line in Tampa, but he can't elevate linemates and doesn't have a strong all-round game.

I've been a little disappointed in Hayes since he left us and he was somewhat inconsistent as a Ranger but he performed as a legit all-round 1C in his final season in NY, only lacking PP opportunities (he was barely on PP2 even) hindered him from putting up PPG numbers. He was one of the best 5v5 centers in the league that year putting up points at a first line rate and being one of the best possession players in the league with gaudy RelGF% numbers as well. He even managed to put up insane numbers with Jimmy Vesey on LW that year.
 
Yeah, after Miller was drinking in Nashville the night before a game, and then had an awful game the next day against the Predators, I gave up on him as a player.

Nice for him to finally put his shit together after his 2nd trade in 15 months

Hes using being close to EdJovo as motivation.
 
I remember laughing at the draft when that trade was announced and telling all the Vancouver fans they wouldn’t like him. Welp that blew up on me!
 
Miller probably gets dealt one more time in the duration of this contract. If he grew up, good for him. He always had a checkered past and had attitude problems. This isn't rumor Joe Michelletti referenced it during a broadcast how Ron Rolston saved his career when he was part of the US Developmental Program. This was when Rolston was coaching the Sabres.

Miller still hasn't had a good playoffs.

Everyone complains about the trade but if Nils Lundkvist turns into the best player in the deal and Henriksson gets his man strength and can turn into Nylander-lite (aka a middle six babysitter kind of like how he is now) then the trade isn't a bomb.
 
Speaking of trades...Rangers tend do ok, don't they? I cant remember many hugely bad trades in the last 20 years or so. Even the "bad" ones aren't that bad. And a few real home runs.
Like, for example, trading for E Staal didn't work out but it's not like we regret it. Carolina didn't get much out of that deal either.

You can argue the Yandle deal wasn't good because they needed a shooter and not a passer and how AV didn't utilize him correctly, we've all been down that road.

HOWEVER..Reunnenan was the pick they got with Yandle and if that guy can develop into a solid DMan and maybe even be Trouba's running mate for the next 4-5 years, that's a heck of a penny stock.

Even in the original Nash trade they got Buch.
 
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You can argue the Yandle deal wasn't good because they needed a shooter and not a passer and how AV didn't utilize him correctly, we've all been down that road.

HOWEVER..Reunnenan was the pick they got with Yandle and if that guy can develop into a solid DMan and maybe even be Trouba's running mate for the next 4-5 years, that's a heck of a penny stock.

Even in the original Nash trade they got Buch.
That's quite the reach however and unlikely to happen.
 
Why? He's a LHD who skates and thinks the game well. It's essentially K. Miller's job in the waiting but Reunnanen is older and at this point closer to the NHL.
If he is playing with Trouba then that would mean he is a legit top 4 dman in the NHL. Can he reach that potential? Maybe, but i think the odds are more likely in favor of him not.
 
If he is playing with Trouba then that would mean he is a legit top 4 dman in the NHL. Can he reach that potential? Maybe, but i think the odds are more likely in favor of him not.

Brendan Smith was playing with Trouba this year and probably will in the prelim round. I know now the same thing lol.

Reunanen looked very good in the preseason and would've done fine if he got a cup of coffee or even in the AHL. He will continue to mature.

Is it likely to happen? No, however between the 436342 LHD prospects the team has at least 1-3 more will be able to play at the NHL level.
 
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