Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XLI
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Is the consensus they go to draft and if they can get a kid they like in a deal for a first then pull the trigger and if not he’s this years Zuc/Hayes?
My thought was Hagelin if anybody .. fast pker but think is those guys have to be looking for longer term deals as UFAs and the list isn’t great this year so even though their productions down it may happen
UAGoalieGuy
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In my opinion, waiting until the TDL is a mistake. If a team in the 10-14 range offers their pick I'd take it. Otherwise if they move him in the summer, a package similar to what Hayes received but with a better player/prospect coming back in addition to the 1st. Also would like to see a resign or playoff results conditional pick in their as well.
NYR Viper
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If the Rangers could clear some of the log jam they have currently, I’d take Lindberg back. I’d also be okay with Brassard as insurance
haohmaru
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Which resulted in Gaborik's best year of his career, a 76 point season, a season where he had 48 points in 62 games and Derek Dorsett, center Derick Brassard, defenseman John Moore and a sixth-round draft pick in 2014 when we finally traded him.
Probably one of the better UFA signings in NYR history.
The way the team looks, and if the rebuilding continues in full force, you would think these two would be nice options at 2c and 1RD. So the younger players avoid playing over their head.
Why? We’ve replaced them all with younger, better versions. They’d just bump kids who should be playing. Let them be role players on contenders. That’s what they are now, and we aren’t in the market for any.
DutchShamrock
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Savard signed for $4m x 7 at 7% of the cap. Chara signed for $6.9m x 7 at 11.6% of the cap. Gaborik signed for $7.5m x 5 at 13.2%.
Chara was worth it and it's not just because he was the only one lifting the cup. Savard was a bargain. Gaborik had short term to mitigate the injury risk and higher cap percentage.
We can debate if Panarin will be worth it like Chara. Wing vs defense, team needs... I'm not sold but he could crush it and earn his keep. But will he have the cap bargain that Savard had? 7% of $83m is $5.8m. That isn't happening. He won't get the 5 years that Gaborik saw. And that contract worked out for us because we traded him. No one would re-do Gomez today because McDonagh is very unlikely to happen again. Panarin won't forego trade protection. I don't want to sign a player with a plan to bail when he drops off. That should be a red flag if we know we are going to need to get out of the deal before the end.
Give me one of those favorable contract elements and I think most people get on board. But at 13%, 7 years, NTCs, wing, that's not so easy to sell.
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Change is good.
It's funny that so many folks have such strong opinions on Panarin. I can totally see both sides of the equation, especially factoring the large potential variation in AAV.
The closer we get to decision-time, the more I lean away from signing him – but at the end of the day, I trust Gorton. I have faith that whatever he decides to do, it'll be the right decision.
The closer we get to decision-time, the more I lean away from signing him – but at the end of the day, I trust Gorton. I have faith that whatever he decides to do, it'll be the right decision.
HFsNumber1Heel
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I'd give Hagelin a one year deal. Honestly, he just doesn't seem as dynamic anymore. Maybe injuries have slowed him down but when he was on the ice for those Rangers teams from late 2011-2015 and again with the Penguins in their 2016 run, anytime he was out on the ice you felt his presence. He's just kinda a "sorta quick guy who once in a while touches the puck" nowadays where back then he was literally the quickest dog chasing the bone as Mike Sullivan used to call him.
Yeah me too, but I think its unlikely.
Who knows if Gorton can get someone to 'buy high' on Namestnikov. If Yzerman would have sold him of for futures at the time we dealt for him, with that data he had, I recon he at least could have returned like a 2nd and a 3rd? Maybe someone still has a bit of interest in him, and would consider dealing him for someone else who isn't quite working out, kinda like the Domi for Galchenyuk trade.
Otherwise it seems like you are crossing the creek to fetch water. We are more bored by Names/Vesey, then there really being any purpose behind going through some trouble to dump them only to bring in other stop gaps.
Brooks pushed the notion that Gorton is determined to solve the Kreider situation one way or another, either by resigning him or trading him before the season starts, so that we don't get another Zucc mess. He also managed to get Gorton to more or less agree that this was the plan.
But like I don't know, how easy is it to make a trade at the draft? What is the market for Kreider?
pld459666
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Brassard is barely a 3rd line center at this stage.
Even on a rebuilding team, he's not a 2nd line center
Shesterkybomb
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And if it wasnt for tortorella being a donkey he would have had a couple more decent seasons with us.
LORDE
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That's what he is in Columbus. Is he that here? If so for how long? If he isn't in 4-5 years what are we paying him for that drop off? What is the movement situation? Could he be dealt in 5 years? Will we need a portion of his contract to keep someone (or acquire someone) on the roster?
Paulie Walnutz
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This. Lindberg could beat out Nieves for 4C, but he’d cost three times more. Brassard isn’t as good as Names/Vesey/Strome, and wouldn’t beat out Chytil or Howden. Stralman?? On a RD that is now ADA, Shattenkirk, Fox and Pionk?
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pld459666
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I'd rather anyone of the three mentioned grow into the role than bring in a has-been
Paulie Walnutz
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Exactly! Let’s say the Rangers do sign Panarin. Sure he will help the offense but the defense is still going to be f***ing brutal next year! Staal, ShitAndHurt, Smith, Pionk. DeAngelo is up and down and still trying to find consistency and maturity and he’s not a top pairing d-man right now, I don’t care what some stupid useless stat says about passing. Wasn’t Brendan Smith like best in the league at entry denials or some shit? How’d that work out? Fox can be a stud or he can be the next Gilroy, point is he needs time to develop. The defense is going to be brutal for the next few years and Miller is a few years away from playing here plus he needs a few more to possibly reach his potential. And I don’t wanna hear about Hajek. He played what 2 games and he was hyped up? He’s going to need time to develop even if he makes the team out of camp. Lindgren? He’s a third pairing d-man if everything goes well. Keane? Lol still a ways away and so is Lundkvist. So again, the defense is going to be brutal and by the time it’s built up and the young d develop it’ll be a few years at least. That’s why Panarin would be a waste of a signing because he actually hurts our draft chances, you’re right. Oh and we have an aging inconsistent goalie, a promising unexpected goalie and a prodigy that still needs to prove himself here. But hey Panarin is the key, you know what sign Karlsson
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I think trading Pionk and signing Stralman (2 years max) would be a solid move.
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