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Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XIV

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ericmgomes said:
Ironically, Parros is the guy who is making those guys extinct, which he was doing the same **** 5 years ago. Mix that with all the millennials coming into the league, yes, soon enough players will be penalized for hitting.
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It has far more to do with lawyers and doctors telling the league and teams about the disastrous effects repeated smashes to the head have rather than some generation shift in an interest of fighting.
 
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Sadly Malkin was kicked out of the game the other night for bracing himself for what looked like a hit that Oshie was about to throw.
 
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How is Sprong a bust? He just had a 33-32-65 season in 65 AHL games at age 20. He hasn't yet cracked the NHL full time but he is only 21.
 
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SA16 said:
How is Sprong a bust? He just had a 33-32-65 season in 65 AHL games at age 20. He hasn't yet cracked the NHL full time but he is only 21.
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When I was 21 I had fathered 4 different children with 5 different wives. Fought in WW1 and WW2. Invented a disease, then cured it. Had my own multi- billion dollar corporation. And time traveled.

Sprong is clearly a bust.

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bobbop said:
I'm normally not big on second and third chances but in Sprong's case, I'm willing to bite if there is a deal to be made. I would expect a lot would be required going the other way if Pittsburgh wanted to move him. Unless the kid is a jerk (I've seen no indication he is) 33 goals in the A is nothing to be sneezed at.
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This is very true.

The great Nigel Dawes once scored 35 in 77 in 2005 for Hartford. :D

But on a serious note, that kind of production shows a player can put the puck in the net. I would definitely welcome him here, for the right price. Problem is NY and PIT probably won't agree on that price. As with most prospects who haven't broken out, his value is greater to the team that owns his rights than a team looking to hopefully buy low.
 
East Coast Bias said:
It has far more to do with lawyers and doctors telling the league and teams about the disastrous effects repeated smashes to the head have rather than some generation shift in an interest of fighting.
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Nah, lets just blame it on millennials like everything else dumb old people blame on millennials
 
This kid can’t score with Crosby or Malkin or Brassard?

I’ll say that’s concerning not for nothing. Still if they asked me for Zucc and the offer was sprong and a first I’d take a shot at him.
 
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East Coast Bias said:
It has far more to do with lawyers and doctors telling the league and teams about the disastrous effects repeated smashes to the head have rather than some generation shift in an interest of fighting.
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Nor sure I buy that, though it could be true. I think it simply has to do with owners thinking that they can bring in new viewers with less violence. More tv revenue with more goals and less fighting. The NHL owners are no different than the NFL owners. It's not the players health that they are concerned with. It's the money. It's always all about the money. Cash rules everything around me.

What you do have now, are people interpreting metrics to mean that physical play actually makes you a worse player. But that is a whole other discussion.
 
True Blue said:
Nor sure I buy that, though it could be true. I think it simply has to do with owners thinking that they can bring in new viewers with less violence. More tv revenue with more goals and less fighting. The NHL owners are no different than the NFL owners. It's not the players health that they are concerned with. It's the money. It's always all about the money. Cash rules everything around me.

What you do have now, are people interpreting metrics to mean that physical play actually makes you a worse player. But that is a whole other discussion.
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No way in hell is that true. Violence sells. I do agree that it's about money, but I think it's more about liability than it is revenue.
 
Kovalev27 said:
This kid can’t score with Crosby or Malkin or Brassard?

I’ll say that’s concerning not for nothing. Still if they asked me for Zucc and the offer was sprong and a first I’d take a shot at him.
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I mean he’s played 2 min with Malkin and 7 min with Crosby this year. In a 58 min sample size from last year, he absolutely ran train with Sid ( only had 3 min with Geno).

He hasn’t even been given a chance to play with either of them, and the one time I saw him with Geno, he fired a cross-ice sauce through two defenders that Geno smashed in on the net front. The kid is ridiculously talented, and I genuinely don’t get why Sully doesn’t play him.
 
bobbop said:
I'm normally not big on second and third chances but in Sprong's case, I'm willing to bite if there is a deal to be made. I would expect a lot would be required going the other way if Pittsburgh wanted to move him. Unless the kid is a jerk (I've seen no indication he is) 33 goals in the A is nothing to be sneezed at.
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I remember during his draft year reading that his junior teammates hated his guts - no idea how accurate that is but I suppose it's possible he has a bit of a 'tude.
 
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Mac n Gs said:
I mean he’s played 2 min with Malkin and 7 min with Crosby this year. In a 58 min sample size from last year, he absolutely ran train with Sid ( only had 3 min with Geno).

He hasn’t even been given a chance to play with either of them, and the one time I saw him with Geno, he fired a cross-ice sauce through two defenders that Geno smashed in on the net front. The kid is ridiculously talented, and I genuinely don’t get why Sully doesn’t play him.
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Because whenever you can play Bryan Rust with Sidney Crosby you have to do it.
 
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NewYorkNick said:
This is very true.

The great Nigel Dawes once scored 35 in 77 in 2005 for Hartford. :D

But on a serious note, that kind of production shows a player can put the puck in the net. I would definitely welcome him here, for the right price. Problem is NY and PIT probably won't agree on that price. As with most prospects who haven't broken out, his value is greater to the team that owns his rights than a team looking to hopefully buy low.
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I appreciate your sarcasm.

Of course, 35 for Dawes didn't even make the top 10 in the league while Sprong was one off of the league lead. Different era, even more so in the A than the NHL.

I agree with your thoughts on price but...

Pittsburgh needs help on defense. Who exactly knows what they are thinking.
 
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Rumor has it Jessi puljujarvi wants out of Edmonton

Of course he wants out now.. After they screwed him over. He should've taken more time to develop and they rushed him into the league. Now he feels hes an NHL regular when he hasn't looked like one yet. Can't believe the downstream effects EDM taking this guy had and now they're going to trade him for probably pennies on the dollar
 
East Coast Bias said:
It has far more to do with lawyers and doctors telling the league and teams about the disastrous effects repeated smashes to the head have rather than some generation shift in an interest of fighting.
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It’s always about the money in the end, ain’t it?
 
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