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Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XIII
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at least marc is in a top 10 list of nhl players... unfortunatly from behind
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Here’s what I want to see Thursday which is within this coaches power while considering he’ll never demote Howden to the A
Panarin Mika Kakko
Kreider Chytil Buchnevich
Lias Strome Fast
Lemieux Howden McKegg
Hajek Trouba
Skjei DeAngelo
Smith Fox
Panarin Mika Kakko
Kreider Chytil Buchnevich
Lias Strome Fast
Lemieux Howden McKegg
Hajek Trouba
Skjei DeAngelo
Smith Fox
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SA16
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People have said that for years and it was never true. Yandle, McDonagh, and Shattenkirk were all high volume PP shooters. It's just your classic case of people making up a narrative and running with it.
NYR Viper
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I've said it before, but Trouba being the 'shooter' on PP1 makes sense. Having him as the lone guy up top, to me, doesn't. In saying that, this team has WAY bigger fish to fry
Trouba is not the problem on PP1. Far from it. Buchnevich is. He’s struggled and the pp continues to run thru him
the other issue is Zibanejad no longer in that shooter spot where he was so deadly. Knew this would be an issue with panarin here but he’s going to have to adjust. Buchnevich was far more effective in that bumper spot than he is on the wall.
the other issue is Zibanejad no longer in that shooter spot where he was so deadly. Knew this would be an issue with panarin here but he’s going to have to adjust. Buchnevich was far more effective in that bumper spot than he is on the wall.
SA16
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Well the shooter on PP1 is of course going to be Panarin or Zibanejad. Given the two of them and Trouba are all right handed shots it's not like he can be a left shooter from the other side.
However the PP2 does not have a shooter like that. Trouba would be a perfect fit on that unit playing the shooter role from the left circle while Fox or DeAngelo run it from the point.
In any case the PP hasn't even been an issue. It's been above league average. But I think it can be more optimized.
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Trouba takes more dumb shots than anyone on that powerplay and isn't silky enough in his passes to make up for it.
He's not a "problem" but I don't exactly think he is a success driver on it.
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That's not a bad looking lineup, though I am curious if switching Panarin and Kreider ends up providing the greatest benefit to the lineup.
Shesterkybomb
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They need to stop giving Kreider top 6 mins if he isnt going to be a top 6 player. I'd honestly rather Strome on LW over him at this point. The guy should be in the stands for a night, 4 goals the last 34 games isnt a top six winger.
The Rangers are going to give every opportunity for Strome and Kreider to still get top minutes because they are as good as gone by the deadline.
Lias plays 8 minutes a night, what is that all about? Lias deserves a shot at 2C since the 2C spot is being passed around like a party joint anyway.
Lias plays 8 minutes a night, what is that all about? Lias deserves a shot at 2C since the 2C spot is being passed around like a party joint anyway.
might be at least to get Kreider going
I mean at its core Quinn is doing the same things over and over and looking horrible in the process.
Hasn’t broken up 10 and 93 to spread the offense.
Hasn’t given Kakko first line mins with a real center yet.
Keeps playing Buchnevich on the wall on PP1.
Hasn’t realized that Brett Howden is in over his head right now in the middle 6.
Hasn’t given Andersson a chance by default
Keeps giving Brendan Smith too many mins because he’s safe.
Keeps playing Marc Staal as his #1 LD
He’s moving peripheral things around a lot but consistently has failed to make a REAL base changes to what he’s doing that’s costing us games.
I thought Kreider was actually fairly decent last night, and didn't have a problem with moving him up.
I'll even take it a step further and argue that getting Kreider going is the single most important thing this organization has to do right now.
they are trying to raise the trade value of Kreider Strome and Fast yes I believe we can get a 1st round pick for Jesper Fast by a desperate team. heck some worse players were able to get a 1st round pick back
Shesterkybomb
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I feel they may have promised Panarin that he would play with Zibanajad when they signed him, dont know that but it feels that way.
Shesterkybomb
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I’m sure they did which is why they’re glued together but at the same time players realize lines change when you’re losing and if they need to stabilize things they may have to separate for a while to get some other guys going. Can’t keep doing the same thing. It’s not just losing we’re by the eye test and analytics tests by far the worst team in the league right now and we shouldn’t be
stranger things have happened. but personally I dont think we get much for Kreider. I bet we get the same type of deal as Zuccarello
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Shesterkybomb
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This has been the problem with this team, we are always trying to get someone going, Zuc, Hayes etc last year and now Kreider. Make them work for their ice time, it's what successful teams do. I'm ok with what they are doing if we wanna put Kakko in Hartford but having Kreider stinking up the ice all season and Kakko looking for more ice it doesnt show that if you work harder you get rewarded. I've felt Kakko has slowly gotten better than the start of the season and his ice time continues to slide. We are fostering an idea that mediocrity is ok, it's not. The mixed messages that are being sent even when AV was here isnt helping. Fast has a good game, great they reward him but then Kreider stinks for 4 games and ends up on the top line. Staal struggles since forever and gets consistant top 4 minutes but Lemieux has a bad few shifts and gets benched. You cant send a message when there are different rules for different players.
Shesterkybomb
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Fast is a 4th liner on most contending teams and teams like Ottawa that arent contending arent giving up high picks
the first flaw in this argument is that anyone expects to win games...anyone that expects to win games they are sadly mistaken and in for a long year.
SingnBluesOnBroadway
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I was wondering the same thing. But if this team is going to be a one-line team, but all the big dogs together and give Kakko the best chance to succeed.
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I never said the Senators lol Rangers should get more for Kreider than they did for Zuccarello but it won't shock me if Kreider brought back less than Zuccarello in a trade
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