Didn’t Buffalo pick up someone for free from Calgary who fits this bill and now is scoring a PPG in the AHL, what was his name again?
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Didn’t Buffalo pick up someone for free from Calgary who fits this bill and now is scoring a PPG in the AHL, what was his name again?
Yeah but at the same time Tampa in any event could trade him for what can become an UNPROTECTED lottery pick if Vancouver miss the POs two years in a row, PLUS a 3rd round pick PLUS Mazanec.
We dealt McD, with 1.5 year remaining on a great deal, AND Miller for Howden and Hajak and in principle a 2nd and a 3rd round pick and someone with negative value in Namestnikov that we couldn’t even give away during the summer when we where in desperate need of cap space.
I like Gorton and have nothing against Howden and Hajak. But he shouldn’t deal with Yzerman who just is on another plan when it comes to evaluate players and envision what will work in this league and what won’t. JMHO.
i totally agree. add Sam Bennett to the list. i bet he would be a target due to him playing center and wing. Bennett is solid and tough as nails for his size. very scrappy and gritty. would be a fan favorite here or a low risk someone like Radek Faksa
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Faksa is just about an untouchable player in Dallas. He'd cost more than what he's worth to pry away from Dallas.
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I can only guess right now. But if these two rookie d-men ruin their careers, by playing together and supposedly failing and derailing their careers, they never had a shot to begin with. There is no better or not, and no way to tell; in what regard also? You can only point at a claim that says: "playing two rookie d-men is detrimental to their development" or "losing is bad for development and two rookie d-men on a line will most surely lose", but there are only two outcomes that matter: either it works, or it doesn't. And I'd argue the players being rooks has nothing to do with any of it.
Also the term "rookie" is in no way indicative of anything, except in the fundamental way, i.e. NHL rule book: "a rookie is a player with less than blabla".
Lazar is a similar target but has had more opportunities at the NHL level than those other guys with 251 games under his belt and hasn’t yet been able to put it together. Fits the same bill, and definitely could still be a late bloomer, but I think a lot of the guys I mentioned are just waiting for opportunity, rather than still figuring it out.
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He’s also arguably one of the best forwards they have developed in the last what, 20 years? It’s not like the NYR regularly pick 50 point players off the tree every year.
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Maybe, but still, to some extent I think a talented team can carry a couple of guys like Lemieux and him.
But if you got too many of them they will be asked to do things they don’t thrive at and in that scenario they will certainly “suck”.
I wouldn’t at all be surprised if we got someone like Lazar or the guys @Loki Dog 74 mentioned and they did really well here.
Just feel so unnecessary to have a guy like Smith skate around there. These guys are dying for a shot in the NHL and to do it on Manhattan for an original 6 team — there isn’t a thing they wouldn’t sacrifice to contribute on the ice. They would be like bloodhound on rabies. Instead we keep sending out either alibi vet goons like Glass or some fat ass like Brenda Smith. Haley?
Would it kill us to give a young and hungry guy with an attitude a shot? Look at Lazar. 7 pts in 7 games in the AHL. He is a fast skater. Can drop the gloves and fight. Definitely not without talent.
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Well you can’t just lottery protect a first round pick through eternity, so it is a protected first. Mazanec and a third is essentially garbage (less so the pick but it’s still a third). And if Miller is as good as you’re trying to make him out to be, then the Canucks are going to make the playoffs in a terrible division and it’s not the amazing return you’re making it out to be either
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they have ~no young talent and absolutely nothing in the pipeline so they 'need' him esp. from an hf fan perspective.
if Seabrook who won cups can get scratched, then I see an issue why no one has the guts to tell Staal he is not an NHL player anymore. Rangers management must love Staal to help the tank. that is only reason to keep this overpaid player who is awful at every part of his game
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The response is waiting for you in the Stall thread. This way the same exact argument is not being rehashed in multiple threads.
I am just ranting because that trade is another fall-out from us undervaluing our homegrown kids resulting in poor contract management and poor return when we ship the same kids out. Miller returned what he did because he had term left and is an OK player. There aren’t many of them around.
I think Gorton is making some really bad calls in this regard and he is never questioned at all for them.
These things are only discussed from the perspective, “has X really earned a 5 year deal?” Gorton has fully adopted Slats bridge deal concept in this regard — and the results are the same. And will be the same as we ship out Buch and TDA and Lemieux and everyone else for crappy returns. Maybe...
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And nobody has to learn that more than me.
The only reason Staal is playing is he knows all the tricks in the book on how to play defense. The only one on this defense. He has a career playing against the best. He does not have the legs to do it himself anymore, but he can help the young players. DeAngelo last year and Fox this year. This is a natural part of the rebuild - use the resources the team has to teach the young players. He might be gone from the team in one way or another after this season.
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huh ?
if he knows all the tricks on how to play defense how bout he plays some defense. maybe ?
sounds like he should be a practice guy or a healthy scratch guy and maybe an asst coach down the road but playing every game and using your criteria as why scares me.
he simply has nothing left in the tank
he cannot skate
he cannot handle the puck
he doesnt win many battles
he doesnt not and cannot shoot
he is a liability in all 3 zones.
he gets beat like a mule
hes teaching nothing good to anyone
he can be scratched and teach all those things in practice and the film room while making his money as a #7. It’s true. If Seabrook can be scratched so can Staal.
he can be scratched and teach all those things in practice and the film room while making his money as a #7. It’s true. If Seabrook can be scratched so can Staal.
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