Don't mind Kakko with Lemmy and Howden at all. Those two are clicking really well and Kakko isn't doing anything to deserve top line minutes at this point.
Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XIII
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DanielBrassard
It's all so tiresome
Think it's a fine move for now until Kakko gets up to speed. Eventually that will be his spot we all know that. But Fast has been great and like you said that line has been extremely successful
NYRFAN218
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Gotta imagine Strome is pretty much a lock to play otherwise they wouldn't use McKegg as a placeholder on that line. And I'm hoping that doesn't mean McKegg is scratched. I'm assuming they just used McKegg in that spot as opposed to Haley since he's a center and that he'll move back to 4 with Haley scratched.
Kind of indifferent on flipping Fast and Kakko. I really want to get Kakko going but that line did struggle. I get the concerns over flipping people after a strong game from line 3 but it was only one game.
I like flipping Tony and Trouba. I've had the thought for a while that with Tony and Fox also needing PP time, that it wouldn't be necessary to have Trouba on PP1. He's already eating tons of ice time at even strength and PK so this should cut it slightly.
Kind of indifferent on flipping Fast and Kakko. I really want to get Kakko going but that line did struggle. I get the concerns over flipping people after a strong game from line 3 but it was only one game.
I like flipping Tony and Trouba. I've had the thought for a while that with Tony and Fox also needing PP time, that it wouldn't be necessary to have Trouba on PP1. He's already eating tons of ice time at even strength and PK so this should cut it slightly.
Shesterkybomb
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I’m trying to understand what the rush is to push a Fox or ADA out two absolute studs to make room for Joey Keane or nils Lundkvist. We’ve got years to worry about it. Can we just have 8 77 23 for a few years instead of worrying about the unknown? Keane yes playing well but he’s nowhere near as good as the 3 guys mentioned
Still disgusted that we gave Ottawa one of their top scorers, retained salary, and all we got was this lousy 4th and an AHL goon.
This season is one year, next season is another. 1+1=2. Not controversial, even for HF Boards.
Bring it up in 2 years then when it’s an actual question. But 2 years from now if Keane or Lundkvist are better than 23 or 77 I’d be really really really surprised
Ok I’ll be sure to complain that we should have done something to minimize loss of assets after we’ve lost one of them for nothing. Makes sense to me. Tomorrow’s problems mean nothing today.
Let’s rename this forum “building tonight’s roster” and make a second one for “building tomorrow’s roster”
Why would we lose them? DeAngelo can sign a 3 year bridge deal like every other talented young kid did this summer. I’m sure he’ll want that frankly. We can make a further decision then on him. Probably more likely Lundkvist is ready then.
Fox literally just started his pro career. As did Keane so pretty sure we’ve got some time
as one of the biggest keane guys on this board...the idea that he is pushing trouba, fox or deangelo out cause he scored a few goals in the AHL is ridiculous
and how are we going to lose them for nothing? fox, keane and lundkvist are exempt from the expansion draft so your 2 year countdown based on that is not real
NoQuitInNewMexico
it's okay cause it's all just the way it should be
hopefully enough of the young players pan out that we have the surplus in areas to make those type of deals to fill other holes...but right now I'm just hoping that enough of the young players pan out to fill our roster.
Good Intentions
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Paralysis by analysis, the OCD need to scrutinize daily lines is inconsequential. We see a Ferris wheel rotation of options, all it takes is one injury and everything is turned upside down again. Nothing will be set in stone because it’s all experimental. Just play, I’ve had enough of the excuses for lack of effectiveness.
1) you don't think Keane will be ready for NHL minutes by if not before the end of next season? He's doing well enough for a call-up right now. 2) Ok Fox Keane and Lundqvist are exempt but ADA, Skeji, Hajek, and Lindgren are not. These decisions don't occur in a vacuum.
Who said he is pushing anyone *out*? He's going to be ready to take NHL minutes soon, and we'll have a decision to make without him having to definitively out-play any of Trouba/ADA/Fox. Thats not how asset management works, if you wait that long, you've waited too long.
Yeah early on I think this is the case too. My preferred line for Kakko has since the summer been next to Lemieux-Howden/Lias.
EdJovanovski
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Some people complain about my anti-Trouba bias but I don't know how anyone who's watching these games can honestly tell me Trouba is the better defenseman than DeAngelo. Trouba is caught flat footed multiple times per game on turnovers where the other teams wingers absolutely blow by him, he is a poor skater. Buchnevich has got back before him THREE times in the last 2 games to break up 2 on 1's, also on that empty net chance that Buch saved. Trouba scares the hell out of me whenever he's on and we have a pulled goalie because I know that he is not beating any player in a footrace ever. He makes many dumb choices especially in shot selection, it seems every single game there are multiple instances where there's a player without a stick or the defending team is exhausted and he shows zero patience and just shoots it at the goalies chest getting the other team a whistle when there are clear passing lanes. DeAngelo & Fox are way better power play QB's than Trouba, they see the ice better, they're more creative, and have a higher offensive hockey IQ; Trouba should be on the 2nd unit. Another thing he does several times per game is when he gets the puck behind our net he'll slow down and skate out with it really lazily or even stop completely and the other teams forecheckers strip him of the puck, or have a close call.
I'd not only argue DeAngelo is the superior player offensively, maybe unpopular opinion but I'd argue DeAngelo is superior to Trouba defensively as well. Trouba is the type of player a very casual fan would think is impressive because he hits hard & has a booming shot, (which are certainly positive attributes) but his game has a lot of warts too. I think we'll regret his contract and I'm hoping we're able to ship him off in a few years when Lundkvist and the kids are ready. Does anyone see these issues as well?
I'd not only argue DeAngelo is the superior player offensively, maybe unpopular opinion but I'd argue DeAngelo is superior to Trouba defensively as well. Trouba is the type of player a very casual fan would think is impressive because he hits hard & has a booming shot, (which are certainly positive attributes) but his game has a lot of warts too. I think we'll regret his contract and I'm hoping we're able to ship him off in a few years when Lundkvist and the kids are ready. Does anyone see these issues as well?
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Seriously. Before getting a tryout on the first, Kakko didn’t do anything to view this move an advancement on a hope, not something he earned. He should still be protected. Lemieux and Howden both had good games, at least for that one game they did better than Kakko, including things where Kakko is more talent.
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