Yes it's all of the goalies. Also, you have yet to explain why me saying I want Kreider off my team makes me not a fan but you saying a Presidents' Trophy winning team is mediocre makes you a fan.
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Yes it's all of the goalies. Also, you have yet to explain why me saying I want Kreider off my team makes me not a fan but you saying a Presidents' Trophy winning team is mediocre makes you a fan.
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Get him on the next flight to JFK.
Waive Trouba. He gets claimed for the full freight or we mutual terminate his contract. Trade K'Andre and Othmann for JT. Season saved?
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Alright, folks. This is not a contest to see who's more of a fan. Enough already.
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i'm not taking away anyone else's fan card. the rule is: "what happens in game thread stays in game thread," yes?
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agreed. the discussion at hand is about shesterkin's outsized contribution to nyr playoff wins in the last 3 years.
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You do realize Trouba has to agree to terminate the contract.
That’s what “mutual” termination means.
Why would he do that?
Answer - he won’t.
Either we buy him out next season or trade him now/ then.
He’s not agreeing to essentially give up guaranteed money.
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They should waive him and find out. His play warrants it.
Vancouver would be foolish to do that, but Im very interested in JT as long as his off ice situation is settled.
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He has a 0.49 GSAA per NST. It's interesting how people just say "but the defense is bad" and not consider that there are stats that consider that. The Ducks defense is even worse yet Dostal GSAA is way better.
He's allowed 40 goals on 41.91 xG. That's basically average performance.
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hard No on JT Miller. he's turned into a fantastic player but he does nothing to actually help this team. he's a locker room cancer and he's had a problem with every coach he's ever played for. on top of all that, this team cant be trading picks and prospects for more 30+ year old players right now. maybe only if Vancouver would actually agree to do a 1-for-1 swap with Zibanejad but I highly doubt it.
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I don't know about Zibanejad specifically, but isn't it obvious that some money would have to go out the door in order to bring JT in?
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yeah. you know what would probably be a fair offer? Panarin, but I wouldn't do that.
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But you see he is very upset about this bad team and so he has given up. This is literally an argument I have read several times here as if it's a good one. Was it Arthur Staple asked why would he want to play for such a bad defensive team? He's as big of a problem as anyone.
This board has a creepy obsession with goaltenders because it allows for maximum hate of the rest of the team. Whole team sucks, including Igor.
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A heart-to-heart with Chris Kreider on the state of the spiraling RangersI generally like to use this opportunity to interact with you on off-topics, perhaps personal recollections from nearly five decades — seven decades, really, counting the 50-cent GO seats in the side balcony at the old barn and the blue seat I occupied as a season subscriber in the new place’s original Section 419 — immersed with the Rangers.
But there are no off-topics today. There is only one topic, and that is the team spiral that threatens to send the 2024-25 Blueshirts into a very dark place.
I can tell you with absolute confidence there is no credibility to the report that first popped up over the weekend on the social media platform X linking the Rangers to Joel Quenneville. That was spun out of thin air. There has been no contact between the parties and there will be no contact between the parties.
The Rangers are not going to fire Peter Laviolette. The Rangers are committed to Peter Laviolette. They are not bum-rushing this coach out of town.
Monday’s 5-1 defeat to the Devils at the Garden was different but the same. Igor Shesterkin, the last line of defense and often the only line of defense, finally broke after being under siege from the opening 10 minutes of the season in Pittsburgh through the holiday weekend. That was different.
And just past the midway point of the match, the Rangers held a 25-10 advantage in shots though trailing 3-0. That was different.
But the mistakes and turnovers in critical areas were the same. The bevy of early odd-man rushes/breakaways was the same. The lack of physicality was the same. The body language was the same.
'It's just not acceptable'
I spent some time alone with Chris Kreider after the match. On another night, I would have led the column with his quotes. On almost any other night. But I wanted to focus on what needs to be done over these three off-days in advance of Friday’s tilt against the Penguins.So I’ll tell you now what Kreider told me in an emotional exchange in which No. 20 needed time to frame his responses. Kreider generally breaks down games by X’s and O’s. He always has stressed the importance of communication on the ice. But this was not about X’s and O’s. This was from the heart.
We all know Kreider was one of two players specifically cited in that “memo” distributed throughout the league by GM Chris Drury a little over a week ago that seems like five years ago. Jacob Trouba, of course, was the other.
Safe to say, the team has reacted poorly to it.
So I asked Kreider how much of an impact the outside noise has had on the way the team has gone about its business over the past week.
“I don’t think it’s unwarranted pressure,” he said. “I mean, we put a ton of pressure on ourselves. We came into the season expecting to have success, but this is where we are and have to recognize it.
“How does it affect us? We’ve gone over and gone over the things we need to do better, but there’s a little lapse here, a little lapse there and it’s ending up in the back of our net. It’s just not acceptable.”
The team’s structure has been a model of papier-mâché. But I have felt that the club’s mentality has been off almost from the start. I think that has had an impact on everything the team does.
I wrote this about a week ago, but a team that is so disconnected on the ice cannot be connected off the ice.
The unit has broken down. There are too many players with perceived grievances. It has not been a particularly healthy atmosphere.
Gives an eff
I brought up the team’s psyche to Kreider. This is where the F-bombs started to fly.“Obviously, we’re going through more than I think I’ve ever experienced,” Kreider, who first joined the band for the 2012 playoffs and has experienced all of this era, told me.
“I know I keep beating this drum, but we need to f--king work through it and come out better on the other side or else….but 'or else' is not an option. We have one f--king option.
“The only option for us is to f--king continue to work, continue to try to f--king pick each other up better,” he said, his voice rising. “There were better moments tonight, but we still lose the game f--king 5-1.
“Better moments, but another bad start. Cannot happen, but it does. There was a bounce here, a bounce there, but it is not about bounces.
“We’ve got to play a f--king brand of hockey that leaves absolutely no doubt,” he said. "We have to play a brand of hockey that’s going to guarantee wins.”
By this point, other reporters gravitated to the corner locker that Kreider has inhabited for a very long time. Our conversation ended.
There are three days here for the hierarchy, the coaching staff and the playing personnel to identify the infection that has spread through the room and to devise a strategy to eradicate it.
Next week, maybe I can get back to an off-topic. But at this moment, there is only one topic.
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Ok then trade Trouba to a team thats not on his list? Thats for the GM who has backed himself into a corner to figure out. At least Drury is on the right track targeting a guy like JT.
I know the NHL as a collective is probably the most risk adverse organisation on the planet, but I am kind of surprised that Drury apparently can't find a trade partner.
A quick glance at the standings seems to indicate there's at least 6 teams in the West who should be making moves sooner rather than later to get ahead of everyone else in the lower seed/wild card jumble, and a few in the East too.
The prevailing wisdom seems to be 'save cap space for the deadline', but space is no food if you've left your run too late
A quick glance at the standings seems to indicate there's at least 6 teams in the West who should be making moves sooner rather than later to get ahead of everyone else in the lower seed/wild card jumble, and a few in the East too.
The prevailing wisdom seems to be 'save cap space for the deadline', but space is no food if you've left your run too late
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