Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Part XIII (Nanaki edition)

[McRanger92]

Would anyone have the appetite to do a Laf for B Tkachuk 1 for 1 trade

Not a chance

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

@GoAwayPanarin keeping track of how many games Lindgren and Fox are being kept apart by the coach who actively sabotages the team?

I’d give it another 5 before he goes back to his binky.

Let’s not act like Lavi is doing Gods work here. Lindgren has moved to being terrible with Trouba instead of being terrible with Fox.

 

[bernmeister]

Would anyone have the appetite to do a Laf for B Tkachuk 1 for 1 trade

no

 

[McRanger92]

I’d give it another 5 before he goes back to his binky.

Let’s not act like Lavi is doing Gods work here. Lindgren has moved to being terrible with Trouba instead of being terrible with Fox.

Looking forward to Knoblauch spamming McDavid against the Lindgren/Trouba pair Saturday night. Bet the over.

 

[Raspewtin]

Looking forward to Knoblauch spamming McDavid against the Lindgren/Trouba pair Saturday night. Bet the over.

Sam : "Peter Laviolette really likes this matchup of Trouba and Lindgren on McDavid, Joe"

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Sam : "Peter Laviolette really likes this matchup of Trouba and Lindgren on McDavid, Joe"

Joe: That's right Sam, two tough gritty defensive defensemen that play the game the right way.

 

[EdJovanovski]

Would anyone have the appetite to do a Laf for B Tkachuk 1 for 1 trade

Absolutely

 

[SA16]

The funny thing is the Trouba/Lindgren pairing has a 55 xG% (and have been over 60% in 4 of their 6 games...just had one really terrible one in Ottawa).

Which does not really mean much of anything in 90 minutes of play though it is a bit amusing how nobody mentions it yet they do mention similar stats in similar meaningless sample sizes when it fits the preconceived narrative.

 

[kovazub94]

I’d give it another 5 before he goes back to his binky.

Let’s not act like Lavi is doing Gods work here. Lindgren has moved to being terrible with Trouba instead of being terrible with Fox.

IMO when Laviolette first reunited Lindgren with Fox was more about a slip in Miller’s play rather than “well Lindgren is healthy now so let’s put him in his proper spot”. I hope folks can understand the distinction because they somehow project other coaches’ biases onto Laviolette.

 

[kovazub94]

The funny thing is the Trouba/Lindgren pairing has a 55 xG% (and have been over 60% in 4 of their 6 games...just had one really terrible one in Ottawa).

Which does not really mean much of anything in 90 minutes of play though it is a bit amusing how nobody mentions it yet they do mention similar stats in similar meaningless sample sizes when it fits the preconceived narrative.

Last sentence - these (small sample) results don’t fit the narrative and therefore ignored. Seems like a pattern that exists not only in hockey

 

[SnowblindNYR]

IMO when Laviolette first reunited Lindgren with Fox was more about a slip in Miller’s play rather than “well Lindgren is healthy now so let’s put him in his proper spot”. I hope folks can understand the distinction because they somehow project other coaches’ biases onto Laviolette.

And yet until Lindgren was hurt this year, no such personnel changes were made when Lindgren's play slipped last year.

 

[IDvsEGO]

The funny thing is the Trouba/Lindgren pairing has a 55 xG% (and have been over 60% in 4 of their 6 games...just had one really terrible one in Ottawa).

Which does not really mean much of anything in 90 minutes of play though it is a bit amusing how nobody mentions it yet they do mention similar stats in similar meaningless sample sizes when it fits the preconceived narrative.

I’ve mentioned it multiple times, it’s just a small sample size.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

The funny thing is the Trouba/Lindgren pairing has a 55 xG% (and have been over 60% in 4 of their 6 games...just had one really terrible one in Ottawa).

Which does not really mean much of anything in 90 minutes of play though it is a bit amusing how nobody mentions it yet they do mention similar stats in similar meaningless sample sizes when it fits the preconceived narrative.

Well, what we do know with enough sample size is that Lindgren-Fox have been brutal. Any sample size of Miller-Fox being better is enough for me. So I guess either way we'll have to live with Lindgren-Trouba though Schneider-Trouba were much better.

 

[Guyute]

Would anyone have the appetite to do a Laf for B Tkachuk 1 for 1 trade

No way

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

IMO when Laviolette first reunited Lindgren with Fox was more about a slip in Miller’s play rather than “well Lindgren is healthy now so let’s put him in his proper spot”. I hope folks can understand the distinction because they somehow project other coaches’ biases onto Laviolette.

I think it was more about “hey we had a bad game and I wanted an excuse to go back to what I’m comfortable with.”

Give him credit for realizing that the switch was much worse but that’s neutralized by the fact that we still have both Lindgren and Trouba in the top 4.

It’s only a matter of time before he goes back to it and the only thing that will prevent it from happening is an injury or a trade.

 

[bhamill]

Let's have Kakko hit 41 points once in his career before we start calling him a 40-50 point player.

He hit 40, as a 22 year old, so 40-50 is fine. On pace for 53 right now...

 

[B17 Apricots]

I kind of expect the Rangers to pick up another defenseman at the deadline if for no other reason insurance. As the team is now it could gel and if that happens go pretty much as is. If Mika's line gets back to where we hope---the 3rd line is just doing great and I like the elements of the 4th line and we have some forward and defensive depth already. Our bottom pair looks very good---Ruhwedel as 7D and Mancini as another layer--you can't have enough defensemen for playoffs so that's another reason I think we might do something like that.

People here when they talk about moving Rempe---he's a nice pickup for a lot of teams but if the Rangers have a target and just to bring up a couple supposedly available if you're the Penguins and moving Marcus Pettersson or the Bruins moving Trent Frederic your organization is already thin on young talent---Rempe is not who you're going to be looking for from the Rangers---as you've brought up with Othmann he'd be more like it or the 1st rounder. From a Rangers development standpoint yes Rempe will have to go through waivers next year but the following year it will be all of Othmann, Berard and Sykora so I expect at least one of them will be dealt before that happens and maybe two. We just don't have the room for all these guys.

On what Trouba said---I don't believe the Rangers are going to purge all the vets on the team just on what happens this year. I think he and Lindgren are going to be gone by training camp next year though. If that's what he really meant....then okay his time is running out.

Been calling for Pettersson. He's the steady guy they pair with Karlsson and Letang. The Pens have more games played than just about everyone and they're 2 points away from last in the conference. They sold off Guentzel last year. If they're down in the standings late in the season I wouldn't be surprised if they sell again. He's a guy you'd really want to re-sign but unless they cut some money loose I don't see how they can... and that's even factoring in the cap increase and Drury getting Tuba's full 8 million off the books.

I played around with PuckPedia's tools... traded Tuba to Dallas, Mancini in. Lindgren out too. Othmann/Perreault in for Smith. I gave Kakko the Chytil contract, 4 years 4.5M per. Cuylle 2.75M, 1 year bridge. Edström, Jones and Rempe as the 13F each 1 million or less. K'Andre 4.5M, 1 year bridge. Igor 11.5M per. Backup goalie and 7D 1M or under. I feel like those deals are realistic, probably about as much as you can shave off... and even then I think you're only looking at around 4-5 Million for that last LD spot. There's your full roster. That's a really small window of players to choose from.

Matheson in Montreal makes a lot of sense for us. He's at a team friendly number. 4.875M per and still has another year after this, we could realistically fit him in. He's not going to put up the same gaudy numbers he did last year since he won't see a ton of PP time.. but he adds an element that we really need back there - puck ability. And its not like he's a small soft puck moving type either. 6'2 200 Lbs. He's been a minute eater in Montreal, +24 minutes a night since he's been there so he's their top guy. At that cap hit I don't think you're going to find much better

 

[TGWL]

More and more people are going to come around to my suggestion of offering Kakko the Calle Jarnkrok contract. 8 years, $24 million, $3 million AAV in the offseason.

If the cap goes up, that's a bargain for a 40-50 point player that is on pace to be a Selke nominee at some point in his career. I have a suspicion it's going to take more than $3 million to lock him in, however.

Middle 6 players would be foolish to accept that contract these days. Kakko most likely turns that down without getting the chance to blink.

 

[leetch99]

This proves "the theory" that people see things differently. He's never looked like more than an average defender to me.

He is not a quick thinker for sure . Seems like he is despite .... having time many times a step behind on a play or a clearing effort . I think it is his tool box...or lack of one .

 

[leetch99]

Would anyone have the appetite to do a Laf for B Tkachuk 1 for 1 trade

Not a Snowflake in Hell chance that Ottawa would do it...maybe if we added Miller and a pick to even it out . Tkachuk does so much more that Laf will never be able to do. It is not all measured in points despite what some think . They just don't understand and likely have never played the game PERIOD . There is not one GM or coach in the league that would not deal Laf for Tkachuk....not one !