Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Part XIII (Nanaki edition)

[Bacon Artemi Bravo]

theoretically speaking.... If Panarin were to waive his NMC.... what does he get you at 50%?

A lot.

 

[RangersFan1994]

theoretically speaking.... If Panarin were to waive his NMC.... what does he get you at 50%?

A first round pick and top prospect to start. Do teams offer less than his value cause of his Playoff issues?

 

[bernmeister]

theoretically speaking.... If Panarin were to waive his NMC.... what does he get you at 50%?

I could be wrong but my understanding is that he likes the family scene here, so you gotta get a relocation close by to get him to waive now, most likely NJ.

now since he is not gonna sniff 11.6+ next time around, and will not get extensive years, rational logic suggests w/half-ish or less season remaining, he does yield on next year's latter trade deadline, not this one.

So to answer yr ?, given the above, we are talking bread to Jersey now.
I hoped for Nemec and Silayev if we retained full pop, with acceptable cap dumps going this way, but feedback said that was too much, one or the other.

If I were keeping, I'd go for Silayev and a larger add, but best strategy here is get Nemec
package Nemec + KAM + Shesty (extended 12.2 x 5 2m retained) for Byfield

I get that is massive overpay, but imo that is smartest move here

Kreider - Byfield - _______ best fit based on what else goes down (Kakko?)
and also can see if Gabe P is a better fit next season

 

[n8]

I could be wrong but my understanding is that he likes the family scene here, so you gotta get a relocation close by to get him to waive now, most likely NJ.

now since he is not gonna sniff 11.6+ next time around, and will not get extensive years, rational logic suggests w/half-ish or less season remaining, he does yield on next year's latter trade deadline, not this one.

So to answer yr ?, given the above, we are talking bread to Jersey now.
I hoped for Nemec and Silayev if we retained full pop, with acceptable cap dumps going this way, but feedback said that was too much, one or the other.

If I were keeping, I'd go for Silayev and a larger add, but best strategy here is get Nemec
package Nemec + KAM + Shesty (extended 12.2 x 5 2m retained) for Byfield

I get that is massive overpay, but imo that is smartest move here

Kreider - Byfield - _______ best fit based on what else goes down (Kakko?)
and also can see if Gabe P is a better fit next season

I swear. Sometimes you talk and I'm following your thoughts. ok. ok. ok. and then BAM! Out of nowhere. You're pregnant and congrats. It's a Quinton Byfield on your roster. If one could harness Bern's TTB (Time to Byfield), into a motor, you'd be able to tow 100 cyber trucks with it.

 

[Whoot Whoot]

if we become sellers, what could Igor realistically fetch?

 

[hockeyplayer999]

Time to think about trading Igor. He is problem. He plays and can’t make a save. I think his wanting all that money, the rest of the team doesn’t play hard in front of him.

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

Chris Drury is the biggest issue of them all

 

[RGY]

Defensive discipline top to bottom is a major issue. This core shoulders a lot of blame no doubt, but the whole team is a train wreck defensively. I like Lavy but these efforts are downright unacceptable.

Maybe you have to make a coaching change to Coach Q.

 

[Kords]

Drury has to do something and I feel like he's gonna move Kakko because he's scared of the locker room and that would be the path of least resistance. I swear i'll stop watching if that's his only move.

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

Laviolette hasn't done a good job this year, but he's not the issue. The core is the issue. Zibanejad, Lindgren, and Trouba are the three main issues when it comes to the players.


But above everything, Chris Drury is the biggest problem.

 

[RGY]

 

[DanielBrassard]

Drury has to do something and I feel like he's gonna move Kakko because he's scared of the locker room and that would be the path of least resistance. I swear i'll stop watching if that's his only move.

It can’t be the only move but I really wouldn’t have a problem moving him. Hes just another guy who can’t play the game with pace and never attacks the middle of the ice.

 

[IronBloodedLion]

Change the coach all you want, but this team has had serious issues for years. They can’t hide them behind their Power Play and Goaltending anymore.

 

[bernmeister]

I swear. Sometimes you talk and I'm following your thoughts. ok. ok. ok. and then BAM! Out of nowhere. You're pregnant and congrats. It's a Quinton Byfield on your roster. If one could harness Bern's TTB (Time to Byfield), into a motor, you'd be able to tow 100 cyber trucks with it.

I'm fine w/da bold as long as no one is insinuating I effed them over
:;

 

[RGY]

Change the coach all you want, but this team has had serious issues for years. They can’t hide them behind their Power Play and Goaltending anymore.

I don’t disagree. But right now there is literally zero defensive structure. This is the worst I have seen it in years. Where is the Defensive structure? All game i watch forwards dive down towards the opposition on a meaningless forecheck because they had no chance of making a play happen and they end up behind the play as it goes through the neutral zone for an odd man rush. What happened to the LW Lock? They might as well go 1–2-2 with the 1 being high on the forecheck to clog the neutral zone. At least focus on defense right now. Before offense. Where is the coaching for that?? There is no discipline with this group.

 

[McRanger92]

This team has to be kidding saying they are just “finding ways to lose”. They didn’t give the crowd a single reason to cheer the entire night

 

[Bacon Artemi Bravo]

This team has to be kidding saying they are just “finding ways to lose”. They didn’t give the crowd a single reason to cheer the entire night

Finding ways? They found the one surefire way to lose every game. Thats to play like they literally dont give a f***. Theres no compete. You dont need more ways than that

 

[bernmeister]

big board is asking about Dach who -- don't be fooled -- sucks and is a reclamation project, tho possible explanation is healing from knee injury

Dach + Barron + 2025 4th
for
Lindgren + Vesey + conditional 7th 2027
condition is it can turn into 2027 2nd + if Dach hits targets

deal Fox, reluctantly, like I said to lose zib, adds JT Miller, Raty + Juulsen

do my bread retained for Nemec +
which w/Shesty + KAM gets us Byfield

move Trouba sooner than later

righties = Schneider, Mancini, Barron, Juulsen
lefties = Jones + coupla small adds

Kreider - Byfield - Miller
Othmann - Tro -LaF
Cuylle - Chytil/Brodz - Kakko
Eds - Raty - Rempe

a young core that works and doesn't take shit

Quick/Garand, domingue

 

[JimmyG89]

if we become sellers, what could Igor realistically fetch?

1st and a high end prospect. I think Edmonton would be all over him if they can make it work. Same for Toronto, they've been dying for a top goalie.

This thing will devolve quickly. You have to make a move. Some kind of deal has to happen.

Been saying it, Reilly Smith, thanks for your services, and move him out. Lets them take on salary if they have to facilitate a deal.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Laviolette hasn't done a good job this year, but he's not the issue. The core is the issue. Zibanejad, Lindgren, and Trouba are the three main issues when it comes to the players.


But above everything, Chris Drury is the biggest problem.

Drury and Trouba still suck.

 

[Whoot Whoot]

Lav put out Mika Lindy and Tuba for the 5-3
My high school team coulda scored on them

 

[noncents]

It can’t be the only move but I really wouldn’t have a problem moving him. Hes just another guy who can’t play the game with pace and never attacks the middle of the ice.

asinine take.

 

[McRanger92]

Gaborik for Brassard, Dorsett, Moore

MDZ for Klein

Replace Gaborik with Kreider and MDZ for Lindgren. Those are the deals they need to make.

 

[effen]

righties = Schneider, Mancini, Barron, Juulsen
lefties = Jones + coupla small adds

You traded Adam Fox and got back Noah Juulsen to replace him. I feel like "coupla small adds" is doing a lot of work here.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

At the very least Lindgren should be toast by Friday. As mentioned before, it checks every box.

Any thing bigger is going to have to wait because there is NO way that they're going to try to tear it down in the first week of December. Hockey trades are one thing but those are hard to make now and this GM shouldn't be the one making them.

I do think you may see the Trouba trade expedited to the deadline though. Theres no way he's having any fun right now and 2-3 months away from the fam is an easier pill to swallow than 7-9.