Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Part XIII (Nanaki edition)

[will1066]

Most here wanted Goodrow shot into the sun. Drury did just that. Now there's crying over how it was handled because morale.

Let's get rid of people. But make sure to do it nicely so feelings in the room aren't going to be affected.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

While the players shoulder most of the blame here, I have become increasingly disenchanted with Drury.

The Goodrow situation: mishandled.

The summer Trouba situation: mishandled.

The "trade memo" imbroglio: mishandled.

How long before Dolan awakens from the Knicks to examine the Rangers?

Right now, this team is not being handled in a professional manner.

Agree on Trouba.

Heavily disagree with the other 2

 

[SA16]

I have hard time believing the players are so bent out of shape about Goodrow. I think it’s something else or a lot more.

It obviously doesn't make sense. So the players are upset about Goodrow. As a result, they are going to purposely sabotage the season, play worse than they can, thereby harming their own future contracts? I think not.

 

[alkurtz]

How was the Goodrow situation mishandled? I’m sure he tried to trade the player. I’m sure they knew San Jose was the only place that would take him got his entire contract

Not quibbling with the need to scrap him. Just the way it came down. As a professional, or really anyone working in any situation, you want to be treated with respect. Communication is everything and the best managers in any profession know how to communicate with their workers or those they supervise. Goodrow, for all his faults and the need to replace him, was a valuable member of the team and deserved more. The outcome would (and should) have been the same but the hard feelings assuaged.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

I like carnage. The Rangers have lived off their PP and goaltending for what seems like forever. The Rangers PP hasn't scored a goal since Halloween and it's ranked in the middle of the pack. I read somewhere the Rangers have drawn the fourth fewest PP's this season. The same stupid PP setup and personnel types from David Quinn.

The Rangers goaltender has no margin of error. These entitled balloon heads don't even try. They make the same mistakes every game. The Rangers should have lost 8-3 to Carolina and 10-1 to Philadelphia. I read last week the Rangers had one of the easiest schedules in the NHL. Dom from The Athletic had the numbers.

The PP dries up in the playoffs and the Rangers struggle. They have to exert so much energy and are on fumes by the third round. People say the Rangers came close in 2022 and 2024. No they did not. 16 wins. Not 10 wins.

It's time for Jim to authorize another letter. Dear fans. Our team sucks. This time we will not short circuit the rebuild by trading for Trouba and giving him $56M and we won't give Panarin $81.5M. The team wasn’t ready to win. We still needed a few more pieces. Six years later and everything is collapsing.

Good.

8-3 against the Canes? Give me a break it was a competitive game that our bum goalie gave away. You can be angry at the team without making shit up.

 

[McRanger92]

Extremely disappointing as a fan to see this be the end of the Kreider era. Ultimately his refusal to be the captain he was supposed to be is why we are tied up in the Trouba mess. A mercenary with motivations other than hockey becomes C because Kreider wants to be noble like Jon Snow and not take it. Now this group will be remembered for whimpering losses in the ECF and their declining effort when faced with reality. They aren’t good enough and never were. Jokes on us.

Drury is doing a job. I know fans hate him for the most part but firing him now is idiotic. Let him see his way out of this mess, they can always fire him once the season ends. Ryan Martin is not saving us.

 

[MrAlmost]

There is some good to this. We can get a lot for Kreider, Z, Smith, Vesey, Lindgren, Trouba and Igor. On top of that, we would then have a bunch of cap to work with. Trade that group now and start with this:

Panarin-Trocheck-Laf
Cuylle-Chytil-Kakko
Edstrom-TBD-Berard
Brod-Carrick-Rempe

Miller-Fox
Jones-Schneider
Robertson/Ruhwedel-Mancini

Quick
Garand

It's not the worst starting point I've ever seen and it doesn't account for what's returned and Othmann who is hurt. And Perreault joins next year.

I like it. It would be exciting.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

This fan base is ridiculous. All they've wanted for years is to get rid of Goodrow and now all I'm seeing is whining about it. Seriously, do you not realize you're hypocrites?

 

[surlysailor]

Drury walked in to a contending team and has done all he can to keep that train rolling. Some of his moves to nibble around the edges have been good, some have been meh. I’m game to sit and watch how he handles this. I think he at least deserves a chance to put his stamp on the team. Every offseason he has had so far has been trying to find a way to improve or stay the same based on the past years success.

I disagree a bit on this. All drury has done as gm is fill in holes/fix mistake he made. He’s used a ridiculous amount of assets to replace Buch, spent a ton to get rid of Nemeth which the assets could’ve been used to solidify the roster, (potentially) created a riff with the handling of goodrow. Now not all his moves were bad (1st for nils) but that still had to be used for tank & mikkola. Plus I always felt like he paid more for arz to retain on the Kane deal than other gms have in similar trades. I’m ok with him finishing this season maybe even the draft but I’m getting to a point where he should def be on the hot seat.

 

[FIRE DRURY]

Brandon Beane took over the Bills in 2017. He cleaned house his first year. Moved players like Watkins, Dareus, Ragland, Darby. I was mortified. He ended the Bills 17 year playoff draught his first year. 17 years. I was 20 years old the last time they went to the playoffs.

Pizza bitch has been the GM for 3 1/2 years. Almost 1300 days. He's had plenty of time to build this team the way he wants. Some guys here are blaming Lavi. There's only so much a coach can do. Look at Roy in LI. He rightfully called out Lou. That's not a winning roster.

Most of us know what a good contract is. Or what isn't. Everyone here hated the Goodrow contract. The Buch trade. Nemeth. Some of these trades and signings are so sloppy. We all like to mock Bern for his batshit crazy proposal's, but at this point I think I'd rather see him run the team than these "hockey professionals". Yeah, we'll have a new team every couple of months, but we'll at least see actual hockey trades instead of seeing pizza bitch hand out draft picks for rental after rental after rental.

 

[McRanger92]

This fan base is ridiculous. All they've wanted for years is to get rid of Goodrow and now all I'm seeing is whining about it. Seriously, do you not realize you're hypocrites?

Not to mention that was a genius move by Drury and got us off the hook for that contract for free. I would like to see more ruthless stuff from soon.

 

[will1066]

This fan base is ridiculous. All they've wanted for years is to get rid of Goodrow and now all I'm seeing is whining about it. Seriously, do you not realize you're hypocrites?

Drury is not skilled enough to maneuver quietly so no player suspects he's being moved. And he isn't able to get the player to like the move to go elsewhere to play. He's a shoddy GM. Apparently a GM also needs to be skilled in the ninjitsu arts.

 

[94leetch]

Trade Igor and keep Chytil.

Igor can get 12 mil from some other team. Chytil is affordable and productive when healthy. If he isn't healthy, we can put him on LTIR, and he only has 2 years left on his contract. If we are trading Trocheck and still carrying around the corpse of Mika, then we need at least one competent center.

I like your optimism but I wouldn't count on Chytil to be around for years to come. He still isn't back from his latest, um, non-concussion.

 

[duhmetreE]

trade Lindgren and Trouba. Just rip that bandaid off...

give up what is needed for Marcus Pettersson or a Jake Walman type.

Othmann should be coming back soon... Let him get back into the rhythm then call him up. This team needs energy/enthusiasm... we have a bunch of mopers and eeyores and it eventually overpowers the room. Rempe and Edstrom helped infuse the team with energy last season... It's sad this is what it takes but we need youthful energy.

demote and limit Zibs. He's terrible right now and I just can't see a switch being flipped.

at full strength in time

Panarin - Chytil - Laffy
Kreider - Trocheck - Cuylle
Berard - Kakko - Othmann/Zibs
Edstrom - Carrick/Othmann/Zibs/Smith

KAM Fox
Pettersson Schneider
Jones Mancini/Ruhwedel

 

[NYR Viper]

There is some good to this. We can get a lot for Kreider, Z, Smith, Vesey, Lindgren, Trouba and Igor. On top of that, we would then have a bunch of cap to work with. Trade that group now and start with this:

Panarin-Trocheck-Laf
Cuylle-Chytil-Kakko
Edstrom-TBD-Berard
Brod-Carrick-Rempe

Miller-Fox
Jones-Schneider
Robertson/Ruhwedel-Mancini

Quick
Garand

It's not the worst starting point I've ever seen and it doesn't account for what's returned and Othmann who is hurt. And Perreault joins next year.

I like it. It would be exciting.

I have said it before but a guy like Mavrik Bourque from Dallas would fit really well. Young center. Dallas has a lot of skilled young forwards. They may like the idea of adding a veteran power forward who can replace what Pavelski brought to them on the PP.

 

[will1066]

trade Lindgren and Trouba. Just rip that bandaid off...

give up what is needed for Marcus Pettersson or a Jake Walman type.

Othmann should be coming back soon... Let him get back into the rhythm then call him up. This team needs energy/enthusiasm... we have a bunch of mopers and eeyores and it eventually overpowers the room. Rempe and Edstrom helped infuse the team with energy last season... It's sad this is what it takes but we need youthful energy.

demote and limit Zibs. He's terrible right now and I just can't see a switch being flipped.

at full strength in time

Panarin - Chytil - Laffy
Kreider - Trocheck - Cuylle
Berard - Kakko - Othmann/Zibs
Edstrom - Carrick/Othmann/Zibs/Smith

KAM Fox
Pettersson Schneider
Jones Mancini/Ruhwedel

Waive Trouba. It was talked about in the summer if a deal wasn't made.

 

[duhmetreE]

Waive Trouba. It was talked about in the summer if a deal wasn't made.

whatever it takes. He needs to be off the team

Tampa threatened to do it to McDonagh.... Either work with us or get waived

 

[haohmaru]

Let's get rid of people. But make sure to do it nicely so feelings in the room aren't going to be affected.

Yeah, that's what I don't get about all this.

I mean, Goodrow had a HORRIBLE regular season and was overpaid. The Rangers, probably, asked him about SJ and he said no and then they did what they had to do anyway. It's business. Was Goodrow being "mean" because he said no? This is a two way street where each party does what's best for its own interests. There's no "feelings" clause in either direction.

whatever it takes. He needs to be off the team

Does somebody take him? Maybe Columbus to get to the floor.

 

[duhmetreE]

Does somebody take him? Maybe Columbus to get to the floor.

I see someone taking him. Columbus, Anaheim, Utah... maybe even Buffalo or the Piles... That'd be funny

it'd be even funnier if he got waived and picked up by Calgary

 

[will1066]

whatever it takes. He needs to be off the team

Tampa threatened to do it to McDonagh.... Either work with us or get waived

My guess is they still think they can get some value in return in a trade like an established big league dman and they don't want to give that spot to someone unproven.

 

[duhmetreE]

My guess is they still think they can get some value in return in a trade like an established big league dman and they don't want to give that spot to someone unproven.

that unproven is already better than Trouba. Whether it's Mancini or Ruhwedel, we'd be better on ice and the elephant in the room would be gone

 

[NYRFANMANI]

We can get a lot for Kreider, Z, Smith, Vesey, Lindgren, Trouba and Igor.

I'd like to have that optimism.

Kreider - maaaybe, but Drury is gonna fumble that trade for sure.

Z - again NMC, we're stuck, and if by some voodoo coincidence, he waives, the return will be very very bad. Again, I can see some dumb f*** in the FO retaining on the contract to get rid of it.

Smith - dunno man, we pay a 2nd+, should get a 2nd back ... ok.

Vesey - 4th/3rd rd pick?

Lindgren - here I see the potential for a steal, use every trick in the book to sell him high. 1st +

Trouba - I'd play hardball, 1st +, but Drury is gonna mishandle this one for sure.

I highly doubt we'll get "a lot".

 

[Paulie Walnutz]

Which one of you psychos suggested this?

 

[bhamill]

Laviolette continues to believe the problem is effort and not bad players being bad

Well in all fairness, lack of effort is at least PART of being a bad player…

 

[will1066]

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Which one of you psychos suggested this?