Speculation: Roster Building Thread Part XIII: Have no fear, the TDL is near (Mod Post page 233, #5809 - READ IT)

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Yes, it depends what Gorton need to strengthen - if he is looking for another center Miller is not the player and maybe the reason they will move him.
 
Yes, it depends what Gorton need to strengthen - if he is looking for another center Miller is not the player and maybe the reason they will move him.
Depending on what kind of C Gorton wants, you could make a move for Tavares, or Chytil debuts as a 2C or a 2B to Hayes next season. In either eventuality, I don’t see why you’d move Miller for a C. I’m a Miller fan but I don’t think he gets you on his own a good enough 2C. At best, a prospect who can project into 2C and whose club is undervaluing/underestimating.
 
We don`t know if Chytil or Lias are NHL ready next season, @Ola mention maybe couple of years of developing. Personally no one are off the table concerning building a team who will compete for the cup.
And it will take years and our current core might not be the answer - so the time table for a rebuild is highly unknown even for Jeff Gorton - even though he hope it will not take years. Glen Sather was on point - Jeff G. has a lot of work ahead of him, and it`s definitely not an easy job.

Because the whole league are trying to do the exact same thing to get that cup before us.
 
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If Gorton has plans to move Miller I hope for 1st in the 2018 draft.
Hope at least that. If it is for a first it has to be for a sure top 10 pick. Trading him to a contender is gonna net us a 25-30 picks. Good enough for nash or grabs but not for jt
 
The McD “injury” and Pionk/Gilmour call ups make me suspect we are working aggressively with one or more teams to move McD prior to TDL. Other possible explanations are a legit injury and a focused tanking campaign.
 
Hope at least that. If it is for a first it has to be for a sure top 10 pick. Trading him to a contender is gonna net us a 25-30 picks. Good enough for nash or grabs but not for jt

I read your post as us trying to net literally 25 picks and I thought it was unlikely but very bold so I liked it.
 
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The McD “injury” and Pionk/Gilmour call ups make me suspect we are working aggressively with one or more teams to move McD prior to TDL. Other possible explanations are a legit injury and a focused tanking campaign.

That completely backfired with Pionk and Gilmour having a good game haha
 
I think Montreal and Edmonton are two teams who are really unhappy that they're in the basement and would probably be willing to move their first round picks this year for players who can play now. Both GM's are on the hot seat and are primed to make some panic moves.

Edmonton especially and Chiareli is probably worse than Bergevin and has higher expectations with McDavid. I personally honestly believe whole heartedly that Draisaitl is 100% capable of being the driving center on his own line. He has played 47% of the season with McDavid and 53% without. Tied for league lead in even strength assists and on pace for 70+. I don’t think there is really any players I would make off limits for Draisaitl. I believe you can build around him. I believe he can be an 80 point franchise-ish player. I love his game. I highly doubt he would ever be moved after signing that extension but if Chia would move him in a panic move, it would be a dream for me.
 
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Galchenyuk is a risk, but he's the kind of risk you can take as a rebuilding team. Same with a guy like Max Domi. If the price is right, it's a move that could pay off big.

Not if it takes someone like Zibanejad.

The Rangers have UFAs and upcoming UFAs to get picks and “prospects” (used loosely to define those youngsters with room to improve). Not willing to move our young core unless we are getting a better already player in return.
 
Eh, I agree that you don’t move Ziba for Galchenyuk but in the instances I’ve seen it was proposed as Galchenyuk + 1st (which I don’t think Montreal would do). I can’t say I wouldn’t absolutely consider that. I’m not married to Zibanejad. He’s good. He’s not untouchable and if it’s a “true” rebuild I’m fine with scorched earth and adding every 1st possible. But the likelihood is so thin it’s probably not worth traveling down that rabbit hole.
 
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I like Holland and think he should be in the mix for the 4th along with Nieves next season, but zero reason to play McLeod over Nieves. Zero.

Agreed . Holland will be a depth guy . McLeod and Carey should be and will be waived soon don’t worry . Both not part of future
 
Klim Kostin is a good player, I think that range in last year was underrated in that sense. Some good players between 21 and 31. Kostin isn’t anything really really special, but he is very good. The type of pick you could live with if he was picked 15-20 too. Tolvanen is good. Chytil. Thomas is OK.

I agree that he's better than his draft position, I think that was effected by injury, but I think you are really underratimg Thomas. Thomas was a big riser coming into the draft and has been one of the best, if not the very best, CHL player this season. He plays a very complete game. I think he's right up there with players like Chytil, Tolvanen, Frost as some of the best late first round picks.
 
Not sure if Chia will be around, but I could see a Hayes for RNH deal at the draft with pieces to balance it out.

East/West type of deal. The Oilers need a big center that can line up with the heavy weights out west.

RNH gets to come play games against smaller centers in the east.
 
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Not sure if Chia will be around, but I could see a Hayes for RNH deal at the draft with pieces to balance it out.

East/West type of deal. The Oilers need a big center that can line up with the heavy weights out west.

RNH gets to come play games against smaller centers in the east.
Is that the kind of trade they are looking to make? RNH makes $6MM and will be 25 in April. By the time the Rangers might be ready to compete he could be 28-29.
 
Bob McKenzie podcast was two hours of trade discussion. He said the Rangers are doing a teardown. Bob went through the entire roster. McKenzie analyzed every team. If the Rangers are doing a teardown,are they really signing Kovalchuk to a 35 plus contract bringing Nash and/or Grabner back? Makes zero sense.
 
Bob McKenzie podcast was two hours of trade discussion. He said the Rangers are doing a teardown. Bob went through the entire roster. McKenzie analyzed every team. If the Rangers are doing a teardown,are they really signing Kovalchuk to a 35 plus contract bringing Nash and/or Grabner back? Makes zero sense.

It makes sense to bring back Nash/Grabner if they take 1 year deals to sell off at next year's TDL ala Weight/tkachuk.

Also depends on how many players are dealt off the NHL roster between now and the start of next season. As well as the returns on those trades.
 
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It makes sense to bring back Nash/Grabner if they take 1 year deals to sell off at next year's TDL ala Weight/tkachuk.

Also depends on how many players are dealt off the NHL roster between now and the start of next season. As well as the returns on those trades.

Will be clearer in 3 weeks

I’d keep Zib. Play Andersson , Chytil, Nieves. Trade Hayes

Miller , Buch, Fast, Lettieri
Zuc is sadly gone

Kreider , sign JVR, sign Grabner back , Vesey
 
Bob McKenzie podcast was two hours of trade discussion. He said the Rangers are doing a teardown. Bob went through the entire roster. McKenzie analyzed every team. If the Rangers are doing a teardown,are they really signing Kovalchuk to a 35 plus contract bringing Nash and/or Grabner back? Makes zero sense.
“We’re not saying it’s a tear down, but it could very well be that”

Re: Hayes and Miller: “We’re not getting rid of these guys. It’s not a fire sale.”

Figured I’d add the actual quote to your post.
 
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