Roster Building Thread - Part XII

[MrAlmost]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1843914490636898434

lol this f***ing clown. "ruble-rouser", get lost. i'm on Igors side now

Best part about that is Hank did the exact same thing. He didn't take a single cent of a pay cut.

 

[GAGLine]

Some insider mentioned Utah could make a big splash this year. Send Shesterkin to Utah where he can sign his big money, 8 year deal and play with Sergachev. Aim for Tij Iginla and a 2025 1st round pick.

Then pipe dream would be flipping Iginla (and Garand?) to Calgary for Dustin Wolf. Let him grow into the starter role with Quick as his mentor.

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Iginla notwithstanding, why would Calgary trade Wolf? They just traded Markstrom, and I don't think they see Vladar as a long-term answer.

 

[bernmeister]

I have zero confidence in our goalie prospects doing anything at the NHL level. At all. You think Garand has that potential (serious question)?

imo Garand is ready already
now

 

[bernmeister]

I would trade shesty for Marner.

no
Marner is soft + useless

 

[bernmeister]

I think he'd get paid by Toronto.

Thats it though.

With what cap? Are they letting marner walk?

Shesty + Zib + Jones
for
Nylander + Knies + Liljigren

I think both Marner and Tavares come
Off their cap this year.

That a massive chunk of change.

With what cap. Also you thought Panarin was bad in the playoffs?

Tavares comes off, and marner isn’t “off” he needs to be re-signed.
And the Tavares money goes to marner who’s getting a raise.
They’re not giving all of Tavares money to a goalie.

If you did my deal above they can extend Shesty before + know what lesser # to extend Marner

 

[McRanger92]

Best part about that is Hank did the exact same thing. He didn't take a single cent of a pay cut.

The difference being that Hank actually was the only reason we even made the playoffs for years. Igor has had 1 historic season but never shown the consistency of Lundqvist. And nothing against Igor as a playoff performer, but wake me when he shuts out a team in a Game 6 or 7 (or back to back) like Hank did every year.

Also sad to say but isnt the fact that we paid Henrik and he retired cupless a good reason not to pay Igor an exorbitant amount?

 

[jerseyjinx94]

Per Spotrac, in 25-26 the following teams have have significant cap space

Anaheim $38M
Winnipeg $36M (Hellebuyck 8.5M)
San Jose $36M (Askarov)
Columbus $35M
Calgary $33M
NYR $30M
Chicago $29M
Dallas $28M (Oettinger)
Vegas $25M
Washington $25M
Toronto $24.5M
Carolina $23.8M
Buffalo $23.6M
NYI $22M (Sorokin)
Ottawa $20M (Ullmark)

I mean, when you're talking 11-13M contract, anything less than $20M it just doesn't seem feasible. Unless some other team moves out money, these are the teams that can sign Shesterkin.

If he wants to go to Anaheim, Columbus, or Calgary be my guest. San Jose invested in Askarov and I don't anticipate they will offer Shesterkin money instead.

Chicago may be able to afford him, but they have to keep in mind they need to pay Bedard soon and he will prob cost 10+M

Vegas likes to make splashes.

Seems most likely that it would be Chicago, if anyone.

 

[NYR94]

All the goalies are getting contracts right now. Must be goalie week in the NHL.

I guess all of the agents were waiting for the Swayman contract to reset the $$ comps higher.

He got $5MX5

 

[Clark Kellogg]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1843914490636898434

lol this f***ing clown. "ruble-rouser", get lost. i'm on Igors side now

He’s old and out of touch so we should cut him some slack.
He’s wrong of course, the King did the exact same thing holding out for and extra million. Lundqvist got it and the team didn’t get a cup.

 

[IDvsEGO]

He’s old and out of touch so we should cut him some slack.
He’s wrong of course, the King did the exact same thing holding out for and extra million. Lundqvist got it and the team didn’t get a cup.

Cutting him some slack? For what? He’s got a “following” and is a respected journalist, and is essentially using a bully pulpit.
And lying.

You want to say cut him slack, then his family needs to take his phone away.
But you can’t pretend to be a journalist and then lie and attempt to push a narrative.

We don’t give brooks slack (because he deserves to be frequently lambasted ) and I’m not giving Fischer slack.

 

[HatTrick Swayze]

but as someone pointed out, brooks legit pushed a narrative that Kelly Trouba was the hinderance to Trouba moving, and pointed the narrative at "trouba would refuse to report" which was then carried as a "fact" instead of the gossip clickbate that it likely was.

Occam’s razor answer is they have different sources…Brooks’ likely being closer to the NYR org

 

[IDvsEGO]

Occam’s razor answer is they have different sources…Brooks’ likely being closer to the NYR org

Brooks has been shown time and time again to be wrong so often to not have sources in the org.

So unlikely.

 

[Fitzy]

Best part about that is Hank did the exact same thing. He didn't take a single cent of a pay cut.

You could argue the 1 year bridge he took was team friendly but that was about it.

 

[HatTrick Swayze]

Brooks has been shown time and time again to be wrong so often to not have sources in the org.

So unlikely.

He’s got by far the best track record of NYR beat writer since I’ve been following. When the NYR want to leak something to the media historically it flows through LB.

 

[Fitzy]

He’s old and out of touch so we should cut him some slack.
He’s wrong of course, the King did the exact same thing holding out for and extra million. Lundqvist got it and the team didn’t get a cup.

This is an abuse of causal inference worse than I see from first year grad students

 

[UnSandvich]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1844042672853696646

 

[Mike in Houston]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1843914490636898434

lol this f***ing clown. "ruble-rouser", get lost. i'm on Igors side now

Gramps needs to go back to bed.

 

[Gluten Free Breadman]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1844042672853696646

I am so excited for him. He and Jones can actually be dominant as a pair offensively. I hope they can hold their own in their own zone.

 

[UnSandvich]

Might as well throw these in here too. To be clear, this is an NHL award, not a NYR award

https://x.com/i/web/status/1844076389550498208

https://x.com/i/web/status/1844075713189810602

 

[DevilDog99]

Yup. Having a center who’s not trash offensively could be huge.

Trocheck aint bad.

 

[IDvsEGO]

Trocheck aint bad.

The context was for the third line

 

[eco's bones]

He’s old and out of touch so we should cut him some slack.
He’s wrong of course, the King did the exact same thing holding out for and extra million. Lundqvist got it and the team didn’t get a cup.

I don't know.....these are exactly the trolling kind of statements Stan would make about the Rangers back in the 70's and 80's when he was a regular columnist in the Hockey News. He's really much more attuned to the Devils and Islanders and always has been since the inception of both of those teams. He's always been something of a crap talking /gossip hound journalist and that's not really changed.....trying to live off pissing off one side to favor another. In the past it gained him notoriety which also got him work. Basically he's a grifter (but for some a very likable one) and always has been.

I've never taken what he's said all that seriously because there's always been an agenda and not really much analysis. He belongs to the age of the Bill Chadwick's. He may be more knowledgeable about subways than he is about hockey.

 

[eco's bones]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1844042672853696646

Some here didn't think he had a shot at making the team. He played really well in preseason. Lindgren's injury might have helped but even if he goes down after Lindgren returns to the lineup I think he's very close to being a mainstay on our D.

 

[Clark Kellogg]

Cutting him some slack? For what? He’s got a “following” and is a respected journalist, and is essentially using a bully pulpit.
And lying.

You want to say cut him slack, then his family needs to take his phone away.
But you can’t pretend to be a journalist and then lie and attempt to push a narrative.

We don’t give brooks slack (because he deserves to be frequently lambasted ) and I’m not giving Fischer slack.

He is really still a journalist? He was living overseas until a year ago.
Comparing Brooks to Fischler is a bit much.
Stan has become the equivalent of an HFBoards keyboard warrior.

 

[IDvsEGO]

He is really still a journalist? He was living overseas until a year ago.
Comparing Brooks to Fischler is a bit much.
Stan has become the equivalent of an HFBoards keyboard warrior.

I wasn’t aware being in another country prevented you from being a journalist.
Also his Twitter bio “award winning hockey journalist “

And also the comparison to brooks is on point. Brooks stoked the Trouba flames with zero evidence aside from “sources” and then yesterday went full pearl clutch about Shesty.