Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XI

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Buch’s problem is so easy to spot: he’s not shooting. He’s generating the fewest amount of shot attempts amongst our forwards and he’s been way too passive with the puck.

He also lacks upper body strength. I know, I know, he's not CK. But I'm tired of seeing opponents so easily knocking Pavel onto his bum.
 
I'd say there is some substance in that rumor coming from Sweden about a possible Zucc-Nylander trade. Someone mentioned this Swedish commentator (Håkan Södergren) has connections with Nylander's dad. Even more interesting is that Södergren lives in Norway, was leader of the national hockey union there, I'm sure he also has connections with the Zuccarello camp.

Håkan Södergren - Wikipedia

Michael Nylander also had a few productive (to say the least) seasons with the Rangers. I wonder if he would "steer" his son into asking for a move to NY. But one thing is for sure: not at $8 million. Not even Stamkos or Tavares makes that much!
 

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Talking about veteran chips? Because if we trade Hayes, Zuccarello, and Shattenkirk at the deadline for all futures, there's an extremely slim chance that any of those futures will turn into what Nylander already is.

And $8m players don't carry teams. This isn't 2012. $8m players are complimentary first line players.
Yeah but the leafs aren't doing that...at least I wouldnt expect them to.

8m for complimentary players,...

I think you really need to look at this list.

Browse - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

Complimentary first liners get 5 to 6. Stars and elite players get 8 plus.

I don't have an issue giving nymander 8x6. I have a big issue giving him 8x8.5 which is what he's reportedly asking.
 
Michael Nylander also had a few productive (to say the least) seasons with the Rangers. I wonder if he would "steer" his son into asking for a move to NY. But one thing is for sure: not at $8 million. Not even Stamkos or Tavares makes that much!

Another interesting point, and I'm 100% sure his son is taking advice from him, but I agree on the $$.
 
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He scored 61 points as a 20 year old rookie which has happened 9 times the last 10 years (Barzal, Matthews, Keller Laine, Forsberg, Skinner, Mackinnon, Marner, Nylander)
 
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Quinn is contributing to the dysfunction. He changes the line up every game. Quinn is all over the map. No method.

The Rangers are playing the Avs and Washington this week back to back games. The Avs pissed away one point on Saturday night. They were leading the Flames and were in control of the game. Calgary scored late in the 3rd and in OT. Avs lost 3-2. They will be in a pissy mood starting their road trip tomorrow night.

The Caps lost on Saturday to the Leafs. Their next game is hosting the Rangers on Wednesday. The Devils beat them 6-0 last Thursday. They have lost two in a row after starting the season 2-0-1.

The Rangers next game after Washington is hosting the Flames next Sunday. They look much better than last season.
 
Quinn is contributing to the dysfunction. He changes the line up every game. Quinn is all over the map. No method.

The Rangers are playing the Avs and Washington this week back to back games. The Avs pissed away one point on Saturday night. They were leading the Flames and were in control of the game. Calgary scored late in the 3rd and in OT. Avs lost 3-2. They will be in a pissy mood starting their road trip tomorrow night.

The Caps lost on Saturday to the Leafs. Their next game is hosting the Rangers on Wednesday. The Devils beat them 6-0 last Thursday. They have lost two in a row after starting the season 2-0-1.

The Rangers next game after Washington is hosting the Flames next Sunday. They look much better than last season.
The word of the day is: piss
 
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Not sure it's just Quinn leading to the all over the map stuff, maybe the GM needs to make some moves in the demote, waive, scratch department?
 
Quinn is contributing to the dysfunction. He changes the line up every game. Quinn is all over the map. No method.
I disagree. He is trying to see what works and has to mix and match based on who is not going at all. Having Hayes, Zucc and ZBad be pi$$ poor so far has not helped him to stabilize lines. Unlike his predecessor, Quinn reacts based to what is actually happening on the ice and not drawn up on a chalkboard somewhere.
 
Yeah but the leafs aren't doing that...at least I wouldnt expect them to.

8m for complimentary players,...

I think you really need to look at this list.

Browse - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

Complimentary first liners get 5 to 6. Stars and elite players get 8 plus.

I don't have an issue giving nymander 8x6. I have a big issue giving him 8x8.5 which is what he's reportedly asking.

That list backs up what I'm saying. Since the best comparable to Nylander on that list is Draisaitl.

The cap keeps going up & contract length and variance is restricted. I stand by what I said.
 
I disagree. He is trying to see what works and has to mix and match based on who is not going at all. Having Hayes, Zucc and ZBad be pi$$ poor so far has not helped him to stabilize lines. Unlike his predecessor, Quinn reacts based to what is actually happening on the ice and not drawn up on a chalkboard somewhere.

I would mostly agree with this. He needs to be given some latitude to find his team.

Until I'm convinced otherwise I am operating under the assumption he's going to make changes because of accountability, a la Torts, and not just because he is confused and can't come up with anything else.
 
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