Roster Building Thread - Part XI (Off-season edition)

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he didn't have a great year. I think we need a C/RW who can play up and down the lineup in the 4-5mm x 4 range. it ain't roslovic or wennberg. who is the best FA fwd available?

why did we move buchnevich again?
For no reason lol

I'm not crazy about the UFA forward market.

I think we'd either need to do a trade or just see what internal options can do.

I'm interested in Marchessault, if anyone.
 
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They won those games with him playing 6 or less minutes every night. It does nothing to “prove” that more minutes would’ve resulted in more success no matter how much word salad you’re throwing at it.

Defending a lead, trying to get the tying goal, etc… are all completely unknown commodities when it comes to Rempe and that, too, is a fact and “irrefutable logic”.
the bold indicates you are too lazy or arrogant or both to make an effort to honestly address the pt.
Even if you say Ros + Wenn were otherwise ok defensively [obv they contributed close to zilch offensively] they did zero to take the wind out of the Cats' sails, which the eye test confirms. No reason Rem does not get those mins except stupid coach irrationally favoring vets over youth. None.
If Rem/line had played mo mins, the other lines would have been better rested. Not by a huge amount, but arguably enuf to = impact/make a dif.

This professional wordsmith does not have to suffer your aspersions of 'word salad' when actual objective points are being made to support subjective arguments.

I'll check back in a wk or so to see if you have any constructive input, otherwise, buh-bye.

You don't contest anything.

You state your opinion then call yourself correct.

So yes, my dismissive brush off is effective.

Dressing him was a waste because he didn't provide enough.

We had 2 injured defenseman and would've been better served dressing a 7th to give them a rest and have a good puck moving dman in there to combat FLA's forecheck.

Bern wrong yet again
bold:
(1) I do not merely anoint myself as correct as you allege.
I take pains to substantiate my position, unlike you, and apparently others, here.
What I said about Rempe was substantiated by video played by Mess on TNT.

(2) He provided enough, and arguably what he did would have been even more effective w/mo mins b'c wear and tear he dishes out w/physical play would have been cumulative, and the more the Panthers were subject to it, the better our position longer into the duration of the game.

It is not, as you erroneously allege, that he was not dressed b'c he did not produce [sufficiently]; he was not more fully productive b'c he was not given full opportunity to play b'c coach wrongly choice vets > youth

Lavi did not listen to bern, and got burned.

underline: that is a fair point to raise as an argument; however, it must now be subject to scrutiny.
Better rested D yes, but how effective would 5'11 + 175 lbs Jones be vs crushing checks from FL.
Jones is a good skater but he's not Leetch/Orr level skating.
A couple of good hits into the boards and there is no guarantee he would not be literally worse for wear.

Also, have you considered what happens when you commit to a Jones in terms of clearing the crease?
At least Rempe was good there, after his primary responsibility of board work

conclusion: Jones for Gust, who showed age/lack of energy as things continued, that is worthy of discussion
not Jones for Rempe
 
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he didn't have a great year. I think we need a C/RW who can play up and down the lineup in the 4-5mm x 4 range. it ain't roslovic or wennberg. who is the best FA fwd available?

why did we move buchnevich again?

Because he was blocking 2 top 10 picks who needed ice time. Unfortunately theyve both been massive disappointments.
 
For no reason lol

I'm not crazy about the UFA forward market.

I think we'd either need to do a trade or just see what internal options can do.

I'm interested in Marchessault, if anyone.
i proposed on the mains but kakko lindgren for frost/sanheim might be a reasonable swap. i think that's underselling kakko who will be a monster and kill us forever but most people here think he's shit. Frost is a great defensive C and on the outs in philly
 
For no reason lol

I'm not crazy about the UFA forward market.

I think we'd either need to do a trade or just see what internal options can do.

I'm interested in Marchessault, if anyone.

I would be shocked if JAM leaves Vegas. Guentzel is interesting to me. He isnt really a guy who strikes me as a Ranger, but he can create offense and finish chances. He'd fit the timeline with Laf even as he ages. Reinhart makes sense to but I can only imagine the contract he gets. Stamkos on the RW and insurance at C if Chytil fizzles out is not going to be popular, im sure, but Id strongly consider it. Im unfazed by the PP aspect. Give Lavi enough players that he can run 2 PP units equally and not put all the eggs in one basket. I dont care if Stammer scores 40 in the RS, he has the ability to score 10 in a playoff run and thats what I interested in.
 
I would be shocked if JAM leaves Vegas. Guentzel is interesting to me. He isnt really a guy who strikes me as a Ranger, but he can create offense and finish chances. He'd fit the timeline with Laf even as he ages. Reinhart makes sense to but I can only imagine the contract he gets. Stamkos on the RW and insurance at C if Chytil fizzles out is not going to be popular, im sure, but Id strongly consider it. Im unfazed by the PP aspect. Give Lavi enough players that he can run 2 PP units equally and not put all the eggs in one basket. I dont care if Stammer scores 40 in the RS, he has the ability to score 10 in a playoff run and thats what I interested in.
Obviously, I'm interested in Guentzel, but I see him getting an eight-digit contract.

I like the Stamkos idea. Have two actual units and stop punting 30-40 seconds of the powerplay. Put Fox on both.
 
I don’t think Guentzel gets 8 figures.

I also don’t think it makes sense to add him unless you move Panarin.

Panarin will be gone in 2 years anyway. They can squeeze by with the cap in the meantime. Our top 2 LWs are entering their mid-30s so we need to at least start thinking about a succession plan if Laf is sticking on the right side.

Obviously, I'm interested in Guentzel, but I see him getting an eight-digit contract.

I like the Stamkos idea. Have two actual units and stop punting 30-40 seconds of the powerplay. Put Fox on both.

I have a gut feeling on Stamkos to NYR. Lightning are positioning themselves like a team that's ready to move on (adding McD's cap hit and leadership was telling imo). Rangers have been interested in Stammer since he was in diapers and if you can get him on a short term (3 year) deal I think he's the perfect veteran scorer for the top 6. He can help fill the void in the room if Trouba mercifully leaves as well.
 
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Panarin will be gone in 2 years anyway. They can squeeze by with the cap in the meantime. Our top 2 LWs are entering their mid-30s so we need to at least start thinking about a succession plan if Laf is sticking on the right side.

Where are they going to play him if one of the LWs aren’t moved?

Plus we’d gave to push salary out somewhere.
 
the bold indicates you are too lazy or arrogant or both to make an effort to honestly address the pt.
Even if you say Ros + Wenn were otherwise ok defensively [obv they contributed close to zilch offensively] they did zero to take the wind out of the Cats' sails, which the eye test confirms. No reason Rem does not get those mins except stupid coach irrationally favoring vets over youth. None.
If Rem/line had played mo mins, the other lines would have been better rested. Not by a huge amount, but arguably enuf to = impact/make a dif.

This professional wordsmith does not have to suffer your aspersions of 'word salad' when actual objective points are being made to support subjective arguments.

I'll check back in a wk or so to see if you have any constructive input, otherwise, buh-bye

The constructive input stays the same - your “argument” is entirely devoid of facts and is based on pure conjecture no matter how verbose you are about it. It’s not knowable.
 
Panarin will be gone in 2 years anyway. They can squeeze by with the cap in the meantime. Our top 2 LWs are entering their mid-30s so we need to at least start thinking about a succession plan if Laf is sticking on the right side.



I have a gut feeling on Stamkos to NYR. Lightning are positioning themselves like a team that's ready to move on (adding McD's cap hit and leadership was telling imo). Rangers have been interested in Stammer since he was in diapers and if you can get him on a short term (3 year) deal I think he's the perfect veteran scorer for the top 6. He can help fill the void in the room if Trouba mercifully leaves as well.
Panarin-Zibanejad-Stamkos

At least they'll score goals. Kreider-Trocheck-Laf can be our driving line.
 
Obviously, I'm interested in Guentzel, but I see him getting an eight-digit contract.

I like the Stamkos idea. Have two actual units and stop punting 30-40 seconds of the powerplay. Put Fox on both.
This concept is repeated over and over again.
No team in the nhl splits pp time even close to 50/50.
The rangers are high in terms of splits, but every team has an A and B.
 
Laf to PP 1
Jones/Miller - Zibanejad on PP2

More equitable splits between the units.

Kreider - Trocheck - Lafreniere
Fox - Panarin

UFA/Trade - Chytil - Zibanejad
Jones/Miller - Trouba
 
I was just wondering something similar. If Florida sweeps Edmonton does that ease up anyone's thoughts as to how "awful" we were? We can acknowledge a gap, but it's one team we need to strive to reach their level. Sometimes you need to come close before you get there.
It’s a fair point. I don’t think we were awful… but even in that scenario, we need to improve to compete against the Stanley Cup Caliber team.
 
What are the rumors on Farabee from Philly? He was scratched a bit this year and it sounded like he was butting heads with Torts. I think he would be a good fit in a top-6 wing spot.

What's everyone's opinions on Bertuzzi? Most of his scoring comes from in and around the net
 
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Panarin will be gone in 2 years anyway. They can squeeze by with the cap in the meantime. Our top 2 LWs are entering their mid-30s so we need to at least start thinking about a succession plan if Laf is sticking on the right side.



I have a gut feeling on Stamkos to NYR. Lightning are positioning themselves like a team that's ready to move on (adding McD's cap hit and leadership was telling imo). Rangers have been interested in Stammer since he was in diapers and if you can get him on a short term (3 year) deal I think he's the perfect veteran scorer for the top 6. He can help fill the void in the room if Trouba mercifully leaves as well.
Maybe. Maybe feels like a Rick Nash re-run. Very different players, of course… but the vet-on-verge-of-aging-curve thing…
 
Play Panarin on both PP units and split the time between the two units evenly. Panarin doesn't play PK minutes, so he should be able to handle the full 2 min PP.

Righty triggers on PP1 then Panarin shifts to the other side for lefty triggers on PP2.

PP1:
Kreider
Zibanejad - Trocheck - Panarin
Fox

PP2:
Kakko
Panarin - Chytil - Lafreniere
Jones/Gus or Miller if the former 2 aren't here anymore
 
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