Roster Building Thread - Part XI (Off-season edition)

[EdJovanovski]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1806314374136496292

Traktor Chelyabinsk, recruiting The Chosen One for the great return

 

[bobbop]

This offseason and next deadline are going to cement my views on Drury. Individually, I have understood pretty much every move he's made other than that first summer. And last year's trade deadline -- which I am still annoyed with.

But I'm not sure he's been great big picture. We got for it almost every year. We have a lineup that's always been a little too thin. And because we go for it every year, we have limited draft capital and a prospect cupboard that's quite thin at the most important positions D and C.

And he came in 3 years ago preaching the same thing he's preaching now -- get bigger, stronger, harder to play against. And our assets and cap space to fix the issue just are never there.

This summer and deadline and how the team is retooled for the next 2 seasons is going to make or break his legacy as GM.

We just finished the season by losing in 6 games to the eventual Stanley Cup champion. You can’t get much closer than that. Yes, Drury is going for it every year. As he should. He works for an inpatient owner and a team with several key players (Panarin, Kreider) on their career clock.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Traktor Chelyabinsk, recruiting The Chosen One for the great return

"I no show up in playoffs, you no show up at all."

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Yes stuff can happen. They would simply need to approach the player. If they are making a trade with Trouba, it would be logical to put it on the front burner. Trouba doesn’t have any July 1 bonuses so there’s no holdup on that end.

They can also approach the player and ask them to accept a trade to a team on their list (Buffalo?)

i dont just mean Trouba, and i don't just mean the Rangers lol i just want big blockbusters to happen

 

[NYR Viper]

Been mentioned by a few people that if the Rangers are able to move Trouba that Tanev would be on their radar to replace him, which would be such a good pickup. If you made that swap while saving 3M or so on the cap which allows them to add a bigger name up front, I would be really happy with that off-season with the constraints of Zibanejads no move clause.

I like Tanev the player, but his next deal, starting at 35 years old, scares the crap out of me. He's getting 4 years from someone...

 

[Synergy27]

i can't help but love the guy.

Same. Seemingly great guy.

Awful when it counts. Sucks for us.

 

[NYR Viper]

Same. Seemingly great guy.

Awful when it counts. Sucks for us.

This is hyperbole, Panarin had 15 points in 16 games in this years playoffs. I wouldn't say 'awful'. Room for improvement? Sure. But awful?

 

[McRanger92]

If there is interest in Trouba he’s gone. Drury can waive him like Goodrow knowing he’ll get claimed. Friedman, seravalli, Johnston all talking about it.

It’s the right move

 

[DanielBrassard]

I like Tanev the player, but his next deal, starting at 35 years old, scares the crap out of me. He's getting 4 years from someone...

I don’t know if he gets 4, if so then sure I’d pass. But 2 or 3 I’d be all over that. If it’s 4 maybe the cap hit would be close to 4.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

This is hyperbole, Panarin had 15 points in 16 games in this years playoffs. I wouldn't say 'awful'. Room for improvement? Sure. But awful?

Yeah I wouldn't call his run this year awful. Last year's performance was awful, the one before that was also bad.

I wouldn't call it good either though.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

If they pay him 12 mill a year, they are crazy.

I think that's a given.

 

[EdJovanovski]

Tanev has always been very injury prone and turns 35 this year. Zero interest

 

[NYR Viper]

I don’t know if he gets 4, if so then sure I’d pass. But 2 or 3 I’d be all over that. If it’s 4 maybe the cap hit would be close to 4.

I get the sense that some idiotic GM will give him term to keep the cap hit down and this is a guy who lays it on the line every night. Anything beyond 2 years and I'm out.

Dillon, Roy, Walker are my guys

Yeah I wouldn't call his run this year awful. Last year's performance was awful, the one before that was also bad.

I wouldn't call it good either though.

This is fair.

 

[noncents]

Yeah I wouldn't call his run this year awful. Last year's performance was awful, the one before that was also bad.

I wouldn't call it good either though.

it wasn't good, wasn't awful, wasn't enough.

i put more blame on the 20/93 line in the florida series though, and the D.

get fox a real partner
get 2nd line a real winger who drives play

not sure what needs to happen to get the above done, trouba trade/buyout, jones trade, kakko trade, chytil trade. but those 2 things are my priorities.

 

[NYR Viper]

CapFriendly has an interesting tool I haven't seen before that has scouting reports for some of the players;

Matt Roy

Matt Roy Scouting Report - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

Brenden Dillon

Brenden Dillon Scouting Report - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps


These are my guys

Dillon doesn't play PP< that's fine, the Rangers don't need that. He's a big, tough, hard-hitting LD and he won't require a long term commitment. 2-3 years

 

[LOFIN]

More pissed about Zibanejad than Panarin, but he could've been better. He still has the 4th highest cap hit in the league. You expect greatness when it matters the most.

 

[EpicDing]

 

[NYR Viper]

f***!!!!

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

More pissed about Zibanejad than Panarin, but he could've been better. He still has the 4th highest cap hit in the league. You expect greatness when it matters the most.

I'd say they were equally as culpable.

Z got locked down but Panarin was the 3rd best player on his line (the only line that really did anything.) He did virtually nothing 5v5 the entire series and had as many primary points as Zibanejad did.

 

[rangers1314]

EF on Trouba today.

Confirms NYR asked for his list, which is normal. But after what happened with Goodrow, Drury has shown he will do whatever he feels is best for NYR “come hell or high water”.

If you’re Trouba, you need to be aware you might be moved. “It’s possible” but not sure how likely it is. Can’t see NYR wanting to go buyout route.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Thats a really nice raise for him and not nearly as bad as I was expecting.

Imagine Zadarov will be next.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

wouldn’t NYR be asking Trouba for his 15 teams regardless? Since his contract status is changing?

Rangers don't have to ask....every with any form of modified clause must submit a list by July 1. Rangers asking for list early tells me they want to be sure they don't make a tentative deal only to find out that team is on his NO list.

 

[RangerBoy]

EF said it's possible the Rangers trade Trouba. The Rangers asked him for his list. Normal. The Rangers are seeing what is out there. Won't put a % on how likely a trade is.

 

[NYR Viper]

Thats a really nice raise for him and not nearly as bad as I was expecting.

Imagine Zadarov will be next.

That is dead nuts on what AFP had him projected at

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

EF on Trouba today.

Confirms NYR asked for his list, which is normal. But after what happened with Goodrow, Drury has shown he will do whatever he feels is best for NYR “come hell or high water”.

If you’re Trouba, you need to be aware you might be moved. “It’s possible” but not sure how likely it is. Can’t see NYR wanting to go buyout route.

Is this on 32T?

Not doubting your recollection, you're actually one of the few people who actually understands whats being said instead of picking out parts of a conversation and spreading mis information.