Roster Building Thread - Part XI (Off-season edition)

[Machinehead]

You should spend money on good players (unless they're goalies). It's the big contracts on garbage that sink you.

 

[LaffyTaffy13]

You should spend money on good players (unless they're goalies). It's the big contracts on garbage that sink you.

Why not goalies? Why are we ignoring the 2 highest paid goalies in the sport made the cup the past 4 years?

 

[DanielBrassard]

Rangers showing serious interest in Trevor Zegras, per Pagnotta

Kakko for Zegras

 

[Machinehead]

Why not goalies? Why are we ignoring the 2 highest paid goalies in the sport made the cup the past 4 years?

Because half the Cups since the lockout have been won by some dude.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Why not goalies? Why are we ignoring the 2 highest paid goalies in the sport made the cup the past 4 years?

Panthers make up for it with serious bargain contracts elsewhere

 

[jerseyjinx94]

Yeah thats what we need another soft player like Zegras

 

[McRanger92]

What they do with Lindgren will tell us everything we need to know about how they evaluate defensemen.

If he's shipped out and they replace him with a proper player, we're in good shape.

The Tanev stuff would be wonderful (He and Miller would be a baller pair), but it only really works if they move Trouba. I suppose that it can work for a year but thats a ton of money to tie up on one side of the ice. He's an excellent defenseman though and he pushes transition the way that you want it to be pushed despite his point totals not being anything special.



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Can Tanev play the left side? The LHD UFA market is pretty meh, but the RHD market is pretty good and I wonder if a guy like Tanev or Montour can play the left side with Fox.

Totally agree on Lindgren. Im pretty optimistic on the Rangers but extending Lindgren would be a massive red flag, when UTAH and their 15 2nd round picks are sitting there with no NHL defenseman.

Yeah thats what we need another soft player like Zegras

If Zegras is replacing Chyil, sure. That's the only swap that makes the Rangers even marginally better next year and beyond.

 

[Machinehead]

Non-elite #1 centers to win the Cup since the lockout:

Andrew MacDonald, 2007
Ryan O'Reilly, 2019

Non-elite #1 wingers to win the Cup since the lockout:

Justin Williams, 2006
Chris Kunitz, 2009
Dustin Brown, 2012
Marian Gaborik, 2014
Vladimir Tarsenko, 2019

Non-Elite #1 defensemen to win the Cup since the lockout:

Bret Hedican?, 2006
Whoever played when Letang was hurt, 2017
John Carlson, 2018
Maybe Evan Bouchard?, 2024

Non-Elite #1 goalies to win the Cup since the lockout:

Cam Ward, 2006
Chris Osgood, 2008
Marc-Andre Fleury, 2009
Antti Niemi, 2010
Matt Murray, 2016
Matt Murray, 2017
Jordan Binnington, 2019
Whatever trash played for Colorado, 2022
Adin Hill, 2023
Maybe Stuart Skinner, 2024

It's not like the other positions.

 

[noncents]

if lindgren gets 4 years here with protection clauses at a top-4 D aav then we should trade igor because we're not winning shit.

imagine having a norris winning Dman drop into your lap and saddling him with his underachiever best friend forever.

what is it with this team and prioritizing cutesy on ice friendships above maximizing talent

 

[Machinehead]

I'll continue to beat on the drum that Zegras is everything wrong with Zibanejad with less of what Zibanejad does well.

 

[FIRE DRURY]

I don't see Drury moving Kakko for futures. He's trying to win now. Drury saw Gorts and JD canned and knows his lifespan as GM isn't unlimited. If Kakko's moved it'll be a hockey trade.

 

[EdJovanovski]

I'll continue to beat on the drum that Zegras is everything wrong with Zibanejad with less of what Zibanejad does well.

But Zibanejad can’t do the Michigan

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

I'll continue to beat on the drum that Zegras is everything wrong with Zibanejad with less of what Zibanejad does well.

But he’s at least young, and not washed like Zib.

Plus since we never draft centers we have ZERO in the pipeline

 

[McRanger92]

I don't see Drury moving Kakko for futures. He's trying to win now. Drury saw Gorts and JD canned and knows his lifespan as GM isn't unlimited. If Kakko's moved it'll be a hockey trade.

Kakko will most likely be moved for futures, that Drury will likely flip for an establish player. A lot of good players on the market are there as cap dumps. Taking back Kakko's money limits teams looking to spend the freed up cap in house.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

But he’s at least young, and not washed like Zib.

Plus since we never draft centers we have ZERO in the pipeline

He’s been playing wing in Anaheim IIRC.

Dude is Mike Ribero with a TikTok following.

 

[n8]

No cap space last year. Kane signed before Chytil had his setback. I do think a lot of the kane chatter is from his camp. The only way he comes back to the Rangers, imo, is if he signs a 35+ bonus laden deal.

I hope that is a 1 year deal at league minimum. A bag of pucks for every 10 games played. every 10 games counts as "bonus laden" yes?

 

[FIRE DRURY]

But Zibanejad can’t do the Michigan

We’re going to exile you to Michigan if you mention his name again.

 

[DanielBrassard]

I'll continue to beat on the drum that Zegras is everything wrong with Zibanejad with less of what Zibanejad does well.

Zegras is not the ideal fit, but he has produced when he has been healthy, he's young and there's room to grow. I wouldn't be opposed to it. Plus he's going to be on the wing unless they trade Chytil for him.

 

[Machinehead]

But Zibanejad can’t do the Michigan

You don't even know where Michigan is.

 

[Overcast]

With how the Rangers develop goalies, I don't see the need for them to sign one to a premier $9-10m+ AAV contract. Sign some schlub in the $4-6m range and use that extra money literally anywhere else in the lineup.

Kakko will most likely be moved for futures, that Drury will likely flip for an establish player. A lot of good players on the market are there as cap dumps. Taking back Kakko's money limits teams looking to spend the freed up cap in house.

There's a negative chance Kakko is moved only for futures considering where the team is. If he goes, a roster player comes back. IMO It's a stretch to think any team is offering even a late 1st for him, so we're getting 2nds and beyond. We're not getting the same value out of those picks in a trade compared to trading Kakko straight up. Then again crazier things have happened I suppose.

 

[Filip Chytil]

But Zibanejad can’t do the Michigan

Rangers should sign Rob Schremp

 

[Savant]

Why not goalies? Why are we ignoring the 2 highest paid goalies in the sport made the cup the past 4 years?

Panthers make up for it with serious bargain contracts elsewhere

Because Florida is a no income tax state so it’s easier for them to get cheaper offensive players

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Because Florida is a no income tax state so it’s easier for them to get cheaper offensive players

eh maybe but i think they just have a great GM

 

[Savant]

eh maybe but i think they just have a great GM

I can be a great GM too if it costs me less to bring in good talent

Half of the teams that have played in the Stanley Cup in the last decade have been from no income tax states

 

[bhamill]

Omg that was so dumb. KK has been here 5 years and he needs his hand held by another unnamed Finish player to succeed? Who should this player be? Zooks has never played with another player from Norway.

I think he meant first couple of seasons to get him acclimated and bring him out of his shell.
Zucc was 23, not 18, when he got here and far more outgoing.
Again this is an example of NYR maybe not going above and beyond to maximize their assets. It’s not like that sort of shit is “required,” but if helped and speeded development, why wouldn’t management explore it?