Roster Building Thread - Part XI (Off-season edition)

[Hire Sather]

Don't have to tell myself. I've already told you in full display for everyone else to also see.

You continue to say nothing cause you got nothing.

I will continue to call you out as long as you press on like this without speaking to substance -- where you have lost and will continue to lose.

Surrender Dorothy

Told me what? You wanted Rempe to play big minutes in the playoffs despite yourself admitting he wasn't ready.

Whether he shouldve played more in the regular season is irrelevant to the first point. Playoffs weren't the time to sort through his 'growing pains'

It doesn't matter what I say or anyone says. You are lost in space and live in your own world where you spout the same bullshit, worded in different ways but still delusional and incorrect. It goes way beyond arguing about Matt Rempe.

Go ahead and pull out your thesaurus to craft another clueless response.

 

[mas0764]

Brooks saying nyr are likely to not move trouba and to use kk &30 to move up in the draft:

How Rangers are approaching critical Jacob Trouba decision after playoff struggles

Trouba has been an important part of establishing a pretty good culture here. His teammates universally respect him.

trib.al

Hurray, another cupless decade on the horizon.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Yous are all f***ing nuts if you think there is any chance Igor getting traded.

They will keep him for his final year, load the f*** up at the deadline and try to squeeze a cup out of this group+ others before letting him walk as a UFA before they trade him.

At this point it's probably the best way to go. If Igor is as good as his 12.3 million dollar asking price he'll go off in his contract year and if we can support him with the right pieces in front of him this will probably be our best chance to win for a little bit.

 

[mas0764]

I’m truly worried if this is drurys mindset. Keep trouba. Likes tanev. Wants to use kakko to move up in the draft. Kane as a priority. He’s starting to make me nervous that he’s not the guy to get this team over the hump.

STARTING to make you worry?

Who is replacing Trouba?

Kakko wants a fresh start. It's not hard to understand.

Who isn't replacing Trouba? He's a sub replacement level defender.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Hurray, another cupless decade on the horizon.

Tell me you didn't read the article with out telling me that you didn't read the article.

 

[mas0764]

Tell me you didn't read the article with out telling me that you didn't read the article.

I read the article.

We are keeping Trouba and shopping Kakko for a "move up," (translation: late picks, which we will miss on).

 

[Hire Sather]

Don't expect Alexis Lafrenière, Rangers to negotiate contract extension this summer

The breakout winger is trending up and eligible for a new deal as of July 1, but word is he's hoping for a bigger payday next year.

www.lohud.com

No surprise. We always have to pay top dollar..

Don't understand how these other teams always get their guys locked in

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

I read the article.

We are keeping Trouba and shopping Kakko for a "move up," (translation: late picks, which we will miss on).

No, it says that they aren't going to buy him out. We knew this and I'd rather not do it this year either. A buy out isn't the only means to moving him.

but sources are divided on whether the team will seek to move the captain after he submits his 15 team no-trade list on July 1.

Divided, not that they aren't going to do it. Even if they keep him for this season, it's not that big of an issue if they commit to giving him 3rd pair minutes. It's not the waive the white flag moment that a Lindgren extension would be.

Kakko isn't really a needle mover either way. And they tend to do okay with their later 1st so I don't see what the fuss is here. There are other means to fill his spot including guys we already have in the organization (Berard, who checks almost every single box that this team needs outside of being a big guy but he's fearless. 3rd line is a great spot for him to break in on.)

My preference would be an NHL body instead of the draft pick unless certain guys are available at that spot but it is what it is.

 

[McRanger92]

Kakko and the 30th pick for McGroarty makes a ton of sense to me if hes not going to sign in Winnipeg

 

[NYR Viper]

Kakko and the 30th pick for McGroarty makes a ton of sense to me if hes not going to sign in Winnipeg

That is WAY too much. McGroarty isn't at that level. It's Kakko for Mcgroarty, and honestly, I think I would expect something small back from Winnipeg, not the other way around (think like a mid-round pick)

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

Kakko makes no sense for Winnipeg. Looking at their roster they need a C or defense more than another wing

Moving Kakko to move up in a weak draft is also a weird move to me but I’m not the GM so

 

[McRanger92]

Kakko makes no sense for Winnipeg. Looking at their roster they need a C or defense more than another wing

Moving Kakko to move up in a weak draft is also a weird move to me but I’m not the GM so

Kakko could replace Ehlers who they are trying to move.

That is WAY too much. McGroarty isn't at that level. It's Kakko for Mcgroarty, and honestly, I think I would expect something small back from Winnipeg, not the other way around (think like a mid-round pick)

If Mcgroarty will sign with the Rangers and all I have to do is add the 30th overall pick to Kakko, thats not going to stop me. Its a glorified 2nd round pick and you're adding a forward who was a lottery pick 2 years ago. I dont think teams are busting down the door to trade for Kakko

 

[mas0764]

No, it says that they aren't going to buy him out. We knew this and I'd rather not do it this year either. A buy out isn't the only means to moving him.

I'm pessimistically reading between the lines.

Kakko and the 30th pick for McGroarty makes a ton of sense to me if hes not going to sign in Winnipeg

What's McGroarty's upside?

 

[McRanger92]

I'm pessimistically reading between the lines.



What's McGroarty's upside?

Idk prospects that well but hes well above a PPG pace in his 2 seasons at Michigan. Elite prospects blurb about him "He's a bull who relentlessly attacks the inside with skill and physicality" Sounds good to me.

 

[Clark Kellogg]

Yous are all f***ing nuts if you think there is any chance Igor getting traded.

They will keep him for his final year, load the f*** up at the deadline and try to squeeze a cup out of this group+ others before letting him walk as a UFA before they trade him.

At this point it's probably the best way to go. If Igor is as good as his 12.3 million dollar asking price he'll go off in his contract year and if we can support him with the right pieces in front of him this will probably be our best chance to win for a little bit.

 

[SA16]

Kakko makes no sense for Winnipeg. Looking at their roster they need a C or defense more than another wing

Moving Kakko to move up in a weak draft is also a weird move to me but I’m not the GM so

If they trade Ehlers and lose Toffoli they definitely need a wing. If they want Perfetti to be a center then they need a wing even more.

Is it possible Dolan demanded they move up in the draft to try and make a splash since it's at the Sphere?

 

[Riche16]

So shocked to hear that the thought process is keep Trouba because he's scary, keep Lindgren, trade Kako IF the price is high enough, give Shesty 12 plus...

OH

AND

Sign Kane

NYR... never change

 

[cheech70]

Yous are all f***ing nuts if you think there is any chance Igor getting traded.

They will keep him for his final year, load the f*** up at the deadline and try to squeeze a cup out of this group+ others before letting him walk as a UFA before they trade him.

At this point it's probably the best way to go. If Igor is as good as his 12.3 million dollar asking price he'll go off in his contract year and if we can support him with the right pieces in front of him this will probably be our best chance to win for a little bit.

You have to sign Igor this off season...thats the deadline...if Igor plays this year as a pending UFA it will not be good. He is a head case,1st slump can spiral things...Our last windows would be crippled...Trade for Brady is fair. Then Quick and whoever.

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

Could keeping Lafreniere from the PP help keep his contract down?

Likely, a little. I see what you did there

But who would be more effective in that role?

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

I’ll be honest, if Patrick Kane wants to play here so bad, he can sign for dirt cheap. If not let another bum ass team like Detroit give him the money he wants

 

[DanielBrassard]

McGroarty seems to want a spot right away in the NHL, and unless he's playing on his off-wing I'm not sure there's a real opportunity with the Rangers unless Cuylle is on the 4th line.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

You have to sign Igor this off season...thats the deadline...if Igor plays this year as a pending UFA it will not be good. He is a head case,1st slump can spiral things...Our last windows would be crippled...Trade for Brady is fair. Then Quick and whoever.

He's pulled himself out of every slump that he's ever been in and has been the best playoff goalie over the last 3 years. No one else is even close.

That speaks against him being a head case.

McGroarty seems to want a spot right away in the NHL, and unless he's playing on his off-wing I'm not sure there's a real opportunity with the Rangers unless Cuylle is on the 4th line.

He plays RW.

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

Kakko could replace Ehlers who they are trying to move.



If Mcgroarty will sign with the Rangers and all I have to do is add the 30th overall pick to Kakko, thats not going to stop me. Its a glorified 2nd round pick and you're adding a forward who was a lottery pick 2 years ago. I dont think teams are busting down the door to trade for Kakko

Why not get both

Kakko, #30, Something else

McGroarty and Ehlers

Winny traded their 1st rounder this year. But yeah that #30 is basically a 2nd rounder.

Kakko replaces Ehlers, Ehlers replaces Kakko. McGroarty is a year or two away i would think, but could also find his way onto the depth chart in the bottom 6

I like Ehlers and think hes a good fit but he would need to buck his postseason trend. His track record there isnt great

 

[noncents]

Don't expect Alexis Lafrenière, Rangers to negotiate contract extension this summer

The breakout winger is trending up and eligible for a new deal as of July 1, but word is he's hoping for a bigger payday next year.

www.lohud.com

No surprise. We always have to pay top dollar..

Don't understand how these other teams always get their guys locked in

it's very simple. many other teams, the smart teams, lock their young talent up *BEFORE* they break out.

like I and other smart fans were advocating we do with Laf last offseason while most and arthur staple were claiming he was on his last chance as a NYR. f***ing morons. we have the same opportunity as everyone, better, really, but can't get out of our own way.

 

[DanielBrassard]

He's pulled himself out of every slump that he's ever been in and has been the best playoff goalie over the last 3 years. No one else is even close.

That speaks against him being a head case.



He plays RW.

I've only seen him listed as a center or left wing. But if so then that makes the fit more tenable.