Roster Building Thread - Part XI (Off-season edition)

[RangersFan1994]

Teuvo is a great middle 6 player with strong defensive capabilities. Sadly, I don't think he's what this team needs. He'll make our strengths stronger but won't move the needle on our weaknesses. I imagine he's going to get at least $5M AAV

He'll get overpaid but is one of the better UFA on the market. Underrated player. Rangers need a different kind of help.

 

[haohmaru]

Backup the dump truck of cash for McDavid in 2026

Screw that. He can't score against the Panthers either.

 

[leetch99]

Brady Tkachuk is absolutely criminally underrated by some of you guys jeez

It is mind boggling at best . They certainly are blind to it and what he brings every shift ! Oh well....it is what it is LOL.....

 

[bernmeister]

If Rempe's the asset you say he is and you believe he makes them more likely to win, do you think the coach is an idiot for not putting him out there for 12-15 minutes a game?

A guy who makes you win, should at the very least be a regular on the 3rd line.

How often does a forward clear the crease?

It is statistically factual:
- they won way more w/Rempe than w'o
- generally, no other single X factors besides Rempe to any degree

As to whether or not that means "the coach is an idiot", others can go there, I will try not to, but it DOES speak for itself.
bern was right, Rs braintrust/coach was wrong

Today he is a 4th liner
3rd line in near future is not unrealistic
extreme outside chance w/development starting now he could get as far as 2nd line

but in any event, not giving this guy mo mins was a mistake

And fair enuf, in general, it may be open to further review
BUT NO ?
Rempe was antidote for physically dominant Cats team
playing him -- and God, I wish we also had Edstrom -- for mo mins WOULD have left our other 3 lines mo refreshed and effective

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

I’m praying to god that Lindgren isn’t back. I’m tired of seeing him drag Fox down

That said I’m sure he’ll get a 5 million a year deal and the next 5 years

 

[jerseyjinx94]

chatfield 3x3 I think keeps Lindgren’s price down. I could see him signing for 3 years at like $3.875M or something

 

[Rullailija]

chatfield 3x3 I think keeps Lindgren’s price down. I could see him signing for 3 years at like $3.875M or something

That would be a great deal

 

[leetch99]

Unfortunately mgmt doesn’t understand what that means

Going by some replies in here.....a portion of the fan base also doesn't grasp it either .

 

[OriginalLimbo]

It is statistically factual:
- they won way more w/Rempe than w'o

It’s also statistically factual that every time I go to bed, the sun rises the next morning.

My pillow says you’re welcome for all that life giving light and heat.

 

[GAGLine]

I’m betting on a very team friendly deal with no trade protection for Lindgren coming soon. He’s got no leverage. I think Drury is dying for a reason to deal Lindgren and if he’s asking for 4+ that’s crazy. Chatfield just got 3 and puts up way more offense. Makes him easier to trade like Kakko as well. I like the Minnesota/Middleton idea

You might want to check the numbers.

Chatfield is coming off a 2-year contract that paid him league minimum. He was UFA but didn't have enough of a track record to command a better deal (he has only played 184 games at age 28).

Lindgren is 2 years younger and has played more games (333). He's coming off a 3-year contract where he averaged 3 mil per year. He isn't UFA, but he is arbitration eligible, and his QO is 3.6 mil, so that's the baseline for what he will get.

Maybe he would take less for more years. Maybe he'll take 3.6 x 4 or 3.4 x 5. That's affordable and as long as we don't give him an NMC, we can move him at any time.

If he's part of a deal to bring in someone better (or moved in a separate deal so we can bring in someone better), fine. But if we can't find someone better, then Lindgren is it until we do.

 

[McRanger92]

Brady Tkachuk is going to see his brother celebrating a Cup parade in South Beach and probably immediately request a trade. Ottawa looking to dump Chychrun isnt the sign of a team that realistically thinks they are winning anything. It's also not like these rumors are coming out of nowhere. His exit interview for the Sens wasnt exactly committal either.

Problem is, I think Ottawa will want Lafreniere in the event they are moving Tkachuk.

 

[gump116]

Same can be said for Eichel in Buffalo. Taking talented players out of bad environments is generally a good idea.

Very poor man’s version of this, but would be interested in signing Girgensons from Buffalo as 4th line center if Goodrow is able to be traded. Defensively responsible, pks, and would likely cost under 2m on a 1 year deal. Probably would look much better on the Rangers than Sabres.

 

[McRanger92]

You might want to check the numbers.

Chatfield is coming off a 2-year contract that paid him league minimum. He was UFA but didn't have enough of a track record to command a better deal (he has only played 184 games at age 28).

Lindgren is 2 years younger and has played more games (333). He's coming off a 3-year contract where he averaged 3 mil per year. He isn't UFA, but he is arbitration eligible, and his QO is 3.6 mil, so that's the baseline for what he will get.

Maybe he would take less for more years. Maybe he'll take 3.6 x 4 or 3.4 x 5. That's affordable and as long as we don't give him an NMC, we can move him at any time.

If he's part of a deal to bring in someone better (or moved in a separate deal so we can bring in someone better), fine. But if we can't find someone better, then Lindgren is it until we do.

Drury should tell Lindgren he's playing on the QO or getting traded. He has no leverage to ask for a large extension, and he is nowhere near a priority in terms of players the Rangers need to lock up long-term. In fact, Lindgren has a bad agent if the guy isnt warning him that he is in precarious position on the roster. By all accounts it seems like the Rangers have an appetite to make changes and Lindgren getting into a contract dispute would give the team cause to move him despite being a well liked guy in the room.

 

[eco's bones]

Tkachuk is a multi-faceted player who is an absolute asshole to play against so I'm all on board getting him if we can. I can't think however that Kreider would be the main thing going back in a trade for him. It's the age thing. That said Kreider's game has improved a lot since he's hit 30 and where it starts to end I have no idea but I can see him doing the things he's doing for a while longer. We will have to give multiple younger players/assets who we don't want to see move to get Tkachuk.

 

[NickyFotiu]

No I wouldn't but one is a top 3 player in the game and the other is a Norris trophy winning Dman so let's be realistic. Those players are locked up early in their careers and very rarely traded until possibly later in their careers.

I agree those players are rarely traded but occasionally it does happen even in their 20s.

 

[leetch99]

Make sure you guys are including KK back in your linesups for next season

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[Fitzy]

Make sure you guys are including KK back in your linesups for next season

There can be spots made for him.

I just think our time and energy on experimental players should prioritize those that fit our roster, needs, and scheme better.

Kakko is a cycler on a team without a cycle line. If we had Dubinsky and Anisimov here to play with him I'd say 'dynamite' and be excited about it, but we don't have any other forwards here in the top 9 that mesh with that.

What we need is a young volume shooter/finisher project, like Nigel Dawes was, and a straight-away stretch the ice speedy project, like Hagelin was. A slow, physical, grinding cycler is nice, but really doesn't work with anyone on our team right now.

WHat's ironic is that when I view Kakko at his best, the current forward I think jives best with that is Lafreniere. But no one at center works with that. Maybe Laf-Trocheck-Kakko if you go to a Panarin-Chytil-Arvidsson combination.

 

[bernmeister]

Brady Tkachuk is going to see his brother celebrating a Cup parade in South Beach and probably immediately request a trade. Ottawa looking to dump Chychrun isnt the sign of a team that realistically thinks they are winning anything. It's also not like these rumors are coming out of nowhere. His exit interview for the Sens wasnt exactly committal either.

Problem is, I think Ottawa will want Lafreniere in the event they are moving Tkachuk.

Only considering to deal LaF if we sell high AND get pref currency returned.
Tka. not that.
Sanderson, or bust as far as LaF to OTT is concerned.

Tkachuk is a multi-faceted player who is an absolute asshole to play against so I'm all on board getting him if we can. I can't think however that Kreider would be the main thing going back in a trade for him. It's the age thing. That said Kreider's game has improved a lot since he's hit 30 and where it starts to end I have no idea but I can see him doing the things he's doing for a while longer. We will have to give multiple younger players/assets who we don't want to see move to get Tkachuk.

Agree no moving Kreider.
Intangibles aside, not seeing we get offered enuf to be worthwhile.

 

[SA16]

If they sign Lindgren to a long term extension can we officially call the Nash deal by Gorton to Boston a failure?

 

[McRanger92]

Tkachuk is a multi-faceted player who is an absolute asshole to play against so I'm all on board getting him if we can. I can't think however that Kreider would be the main thing going back in a trade for him. It's the age thing. That said Kreider's game has improved a lot since he's hit 30 and where it starts to end I have no idea but I can see him doing the things he's doing for a while longer. We will have to give multiple younger players/assets who we don't want to see move to get Tkachuk.

I was picturing a 3 team deal where Kreider goes to some team like Vegas for assets to use to acquire Tkachuk. Getting ahead of ourselves lol but its June 14th and we have time on our hands.

 

[Lion Hound]

Tkachuk is a multi-faceted player who is an absolute asshole to play against so I'm all on board getting him if we can. I can't think however that Kreider would be the main thing going back in a trade for him. It's the age thing. That said Kreider's game has improved a lot since he's hit 30 and where it starts to end I have no idea but I can see him doing the things he's doing for a while longer. We will have to give multiple younger players/assets who we don't want to see move to get Tkachuk.

Would also be unlikely that Sens would be on Kreiders 15 team list.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Would also be unlikely that Sens would be on Kreiders 15 team list.

His list to accept a trade or decline one? Have to think all the Canadian teams would be on his do not trade list.

 

[GAGLine]

Drury should tell Lindgren he's playing on the QO or getting traded. He has no leverage to ask for a large extension, and he is nowhere near a priority in terms of players the Rangers need to lock up long-term. In fact, Lindgren has a bad agent if the guy isnt warning him that he is in precarious position on the roster. By all accounts it seems like the Rangers have an appetite to make changes and Lindgren getting into a contract dispute would give the team cause to move him despite being a well liked guy in the room.

He has leverage via arbitration. A 1-year arbitration award would bring him to free agency, and we wouldn't be able to trade him before then.

The minimum award for the team to walk away is 4.74 mil, which Lindgren almost certainly won't get, so we'd be stuck with him on an immovable 1-year contract.

 

[Cmox]

“I knew it was going to be a tough matchup,” Zibanejad said. “I just tried to create offense, and the way I'm wired, if I don't get any offense, then I want to make sure that I close it down defensively. Five-on-five, I don’t think they scored a goal against us, either. So, we kind of canceled each other out.

Can the Rangers win a Stanley Cup with Mika Zibanejad as their top center?

The Blueshirts need more out of Mika Zibanejad if they're ever going to break through in the playoffs.

www.lohud.com

 

[The Crypto Guy]

“I knew it was going to be a tough matchup,” Zibanejad said. “I just tried to create offense, and the way I'm wired, if I don't get any offense, then I want to make sure that I close it down defensively. Five-on-five, I don’t think they scored a goal against us, either. So, we kind of canceled each other out.

Can the Rangers win a Stanley Cup with Mika Zibanejad as their top center?

The Blueshirts need more out of Mika Zibanejad if they're ever going to break through in the playoffs.

www.lohud.com

As long as Mika was happy with his game..