After reading over probably 1000s of posts about Lindgren in the last few years I noticed something kind of interesting. The people who want him signed in the offseason all say the same thing. He is a heart and soul guy, the team loves him, he has great chemistry with Fox etc. None of that actually describes his game plus Fox is a superstar are we acting like no one can play with him? Fox being as smart as he is with his talent can probably play with most players.
The people who want him traded talk about his game. He is terrible on offense as he doesn't have a good shot, not great at passing, skating is mediocre, cant stick handle so he usually just dumps the puck in an area that another Ranger cant get to while under pressure etc. They talk about his durability as he gets drilled more than anyone else on the team, gets knocked out of the game but he keeps coming back to play hurt. Is that even a good thing? Lastly this year especially his defense hasn't been good as he is out of position a lot and people are getting behind him. A
I challenge everyone to go back and read the threads and notice the difference. The pros are almost entirely things that can't be measured and the cons are almost always about his skill and performance. If you spoke with anyone about him and left off his name and described him as a player it doesn't sound good. Does he skate well....no. Does he shoot well....no. Does he pass well....no. Is he physical....no he usually gets destroyed. Does he block a ton of shots....no and usually he gets hurt when he does. Is he an amazing shutdown dman....no but he does play with one of the best dmen in the game and I think he has great chemistry.
I just dont understand it.
I think Lindgren is actually a very underrated skater. He moves pretty well. His game is focused mostly on retrieving pucks and getting it to Fox to move up ice, but he moves the puck up the boards relatively well. If he had to be the one breaking it out, I think you'd see a lot more mistakes, but he plays with Fox and doesn't need to. While most posters act like he is a detriment with the puck on his stick and a poor skater, I don't really see it that way.
He also has the courage to absolutely eat pucks, which you need in a few of your defensemen. You can't have 6 guys who play the same way.
Because of his courage, he doesn't protect his body well enough. He needs to learn to retrieve pucks and avoid checks, because he is average sized. If he doesn't do this, he puts himself at risk of injury, which we've seen over the past few years.
He's also surprisingly good at keeping pucks in at the blue line and keeping the play alive.
At the price point he will likely sign, you're not going to find a similarly capable player. I'm not saying they shouldn't upgrade him if an upgrade is available, but I'm not seeing Lindgren as a "must move" guy as if he is a detriment to the team.
Well I do want to win more than one Cup and if we happen to win one, there will be analysis of what we need to do to win another.
Disappointed in winning one? No.
I mean, you should always be trying to get better. Whether you win the Cup or not. So you're rephrasing what I'm saying.
My point is, instead of enjoying the win, you'd say they got lucky and be negative about not winning another one.
I don't know, I think there is a line between being critical and analyzing the roster/moves, and being cynical, and you tow it. You act like there's one way to win the Cup and there just isn't. Vegas is a perfect example.
