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Drury might actually be decent at trade deadlines getting players that the team needs to fill out properly; unless, he is completely hamstrung by Dolan screaming about some star power crap.
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McRanger92
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For sure. Even last year, Tarasenko, Mikkola and Motte(x2) were all good fits for what we needed. The mishandling of the Kane acquisition was on Dolan, Drury, Gallant and the players. Dolan and Drury for facilitating it, and the coach and players for thinking their Messiah had arrived.
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not a fan of Dillon with Fox. I would like a true top pairing and a strong top4. I can't see them signing Dillon or DeMelo for the same price Lindgren would command.
KAM Schneider Fox are 3 of the top4. We need to get Fox a long term partner that could provide some offense.
depending on how things play out, I can see things staying the same.... Maybe Jones Trouba as a '3rd pair'. Status quo.
We'll see how things go in the Playoffs.
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I don't love Dillon on the top-pairing but I also don't love Lindgren there. I agree the team needs to find a long term solution to that spot but there really isn't one available this offseason with a reasonable acquisition cost. Dillon would be a stop gap for me
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mobility is the name of the game. Dillon will be a Nemeth 2.0 imo
Chychrun still makes the most sense to me. He'd cost assets, maybe a 1st. People are rightfully worried about his injury history... but the potential/upside is phenomenal. He's stayed healthy this season. He was healthy over the covid seasons. He said he worked on it and it looks good so far this season.
Chychrun Fox
KAM Schneider
now... what you do with the 3rd pair is the big question. Jones, Gus, Lindgren, Trouba +UFA? I'm more inclined to keep Lindgren over Trouba, cap and mobility being the main reasons.
NYR Viper
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I REALLY don't want to give up major assets for Chychrun who very well could hit UFA at years end. Now when he hits UFA? I'm game.
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In that case, why not just keep Lindgren on a 4-year deal with a limited NTC? He can be moved when we find a long-term option.
Logistically, trading Lindgren and replacing him with a UFA isn't as easy as it may seem.
Dillon would have been a decent pick up before his last contract. Not so much now.
Demelo is good though if you're looking for 4-6 help. Might be too expensive but he's pretty solid across the board.
Still think that the clear moves are to boot Lindgren, slide Trouba down (unless you can boot him too) and move Schneider up to Trouba's spot.
At minimum, you're looking for a Fox partner and half a bottom pair. Jones is going to get burn in this league but I doubt it's here.
Demelo is good though if you're looking for 4-6 help. Might be too expensive but he's pretty solid across the board.
Still think that the clear moves are to boot Lindgren, slide Trouba down (unless you can boot him too) and move Schneider up to Trouba's spot.
At minimum, you're looking for a Fox partner and half a bottom pair. Jones is going to get burn in this league but I doubt it's here.
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Wennberg was playing 2C minutes(19 a game) with Seattle. He's a fine add at 3C and hopefully they can resign him especially with Chytil's uncertain future.
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the out of left field move would be Theodore, if Vegas is forced to make a move because of their cap
NYR Viper
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Jacob Middleton or Mario Ferraro are likely to be available as well.
My thought process is:
Trade Lindgren for assets
Sign a UFA that can fill the same slot for the same money but not need as long of a deal
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dupe Buffalo into Trouba for Samuelsson. Trouba gets to stay in NY
McRanger92
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Wennberg is a priority for me. Incredibly smart player and passer. He allows the big wings on that line to battle down low while he covers the opponents escape as the high forward. He can be the 3C next year and if Chytil returns at any point, one of them can easily shift to the wing. Wennberg has been around a long time (most likely playing above his capabilities) but I was nt truly familiar with his game. I stand by the Michael Nylander comp from the other day.
your representations are accurate
Howev, I don't get the vibe that he can handle the part of the puzzle as to contributing sufficiently on offense
for that reason, prefer he be a part of superior/elite 4t line and just get a better C to pivot betw Cuylle + KK
this could be interesting
depending on cost
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I get that, but I don't think it's that simple.
Trading Lindgren prior to signing Dillon is risky, because Dillon may not sign with us. Trading Lindgren after signing Dillon will likely reduce Lindgren's value, because other teams will know we need to move him. It also limits our time/opportunity to move him. Other teams may have already solved their defensive issues through trade or free agency by the time Dillon signs.
You also have to consider that Lindgren is a pending RFA with 1 RFA year left. Buchnevich was in that same exact situation and look at what we got for him.
Maybe if we were to trade for Dillon's UFA rights, sign him, and trade Lindgren all by the draft, it would mitigate those concerns, but I don't see it happening.
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That’s the template for the defense. I think it’s unlikely Trouba and Lindgren are both moved, so I think Lindgren would be the preferred choice to stay, move out Trouba and either re-sign Gustafsson or sign a guy like DeMelo. That gives the Rangers more cap space and flexibility and I don’t think it hurts us at all.
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That’s the template for the defense. I think it’s unlikely Trouba and Lindgren are both moved, so I think Lindgren would be the preferred choice to stay, move out Trouba and either re-sign Gustafsson or sign a guy like DeMelo. That gives the Rangers more cap space and flexibility and I don’t think it hurts us at all.
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If Wennberg is resigned I’m either moving Chytil to RW or moving him for a LD. Maybe his upside and uncertainty is equal to Chychruns.
I love Chychrun. I do worry about the injury history but he is on the cusp on being an impact player. I’m not sure how to accommodate him though given the current top 6 and Jones waiting in the wings. Check back with me after the playoffs.
I thought the Tarasenko trade was a master stroke. Good value, fair price. I would have much rather had him use the remaining money to add some sandpaper rather than Kane. That was the killer.
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It would have to mean one of Lindgren or Trouba are moved. Like you said, it will become more evident after the Playoffs.
NYR Viper
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I have tp assume that based on the UFA pool, there will be quite a few teams looking for defensive help who can't allure UFA's that would be open to a trade for Lindgren. Arizona being one of them. So even if they signed Dillon, or Demelo or someone like that, the worst case scenario would be to tell teams he's available but they don't need to trade him. Worst case is Jones is the #7 to start the season.
McRanger92
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Do we beat the Devils if we had a player like Hathaway playing with Trocheck and Kreider instead of Kane? Ive asked myself that. That guy is a force in tight checking games. Ancient history now.
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Been advocating for this since the Hanifin trade. If Hanifin is extended something is going to have to give over there. If you can get Theodore for like what they were offering for Guentzel-ish, that’s the move you make because it moves everyone down a pair
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I can see Goodrow and Lindgren going to San Jose for Sturm and Ferraro.
I can also see Kakko going for picks/other young player.
Wennberg is good, but I think Ros might be the one they keep, if they keep someone.
Panarin-Tro-Laf
Kreider-Z-Ros/Othmann
Cuylle-Chytil?-Berard
Vesey-Sturm-Edstrom/Rempe/Brod
Ferraro-Fox
Miller-Schneider
Jones-Trouba
Scanlin
Damn man. I like that team. Might be the meanest team in the league. Black and Blueshirts? Nope. The Big Bad Blushirts. Haha
I can also see Kakko going for picks/other young player.
Wennberg is good, but I think Ros might be the one they keep, if they keep someone.
Panarin-Tro-Laf
Kreider-Z-Ros/Othmann
Cuylle-Chytil?-Berard
Vesey-Sturm-Edstrom/Rempe/Brod
Ferraro-Fox
Miller-Schneider
Jones-Trouba
Scanlin
Damn man. I like that team. Might be the meanest team in the league. Black and Blueshirts? Nope. The Big Bad Blushirts. Haha
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