I know it won't happen but Soderberg is the odd man out in CO and they could use a D like Staal. On paper Staal makes 1 million more and has an extra year on the deal so Rangers like have to eat a bit
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And, since there are 30 teams, that puts him as a "top line winger" as well. Not a guy you give away as a UFA.
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30th in PPG though among wingers in that span, that list doesn't count guys like Laine and Marner who are definitely top 30 wingers, and you could easily add a few guys who are centers but also play wing. He's probably a top 30 winger, but I don't think its so obvious, he's probably in the 25-30 range.
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We are talking about in two years. The guy is right now at his prime, might not be the case in two years.
And we just gave away a guy who probably ranks the same at his position in the NHL as Zucc, a lot here had no problem with it. That guy was also much younger.
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How can you tell if he is bad there if he is never given a real opportunity? One or two games every several months really doesn't tell you anything.
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Maybe, but our genius coaching staff obviously hasn’t seen him enough to keep him there. There also is even less evidence that he is good there.
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Would be happy to. Rangers at the worst can hide Soderberg more than they could hide Staal. Either way someone is getting bought out in the summer.
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Sure but it's the same coaching staff that wanted to play Girardi on the top pairing with McDonagh for years, give Glass a regular role, and give Buchnevich a lot of time on the 4th line so I wouldn't exactly take that as any reason about him being good or bad there.
This is the same as the Etem thing regardless of how he turned out. Maybe he's not good but management wanted him and was an elite AHL scorer. Playing him in a checking role with guys with no offense really doesn't tell you at all whether he can play in a top six role with offensive players.
Unless you give someone an actual extended look in a role I don't know how you can make a decision on his ability to fulfill it. Wasn't he a wing throughout his entire college career too? I remember a whole when they signed him about them "moving him" to center because they liked his size down the middle.
Not that I agree with this, because I think the team needs McDonagh, but if Skjei takes a massive step forward this year, I'm curious if they listen to offers on McDonagh during the summer
I don't know what team would trade for him that needs him and is close to winning. The Jets need a LHD but they aren't close to winning
Maybe St Louis but I don't think they have anything interesting enough to entice me personally.
Also don't know what the package would look like
I'd want a forward that is ready to play, and a 1st round pick to start with. A lot of good D in this upcoming draft
But I want McDonagh to stay so the point is kinda moot
I recon that you should never say never, but with Shatty/TDA/Pionk on the right for years to come we must have defensively capable LDs. Preferably with some experience. McD just makes too much sense in that perspective.
It was one thing when we had a defensive right side too, we could like have kept Yandle and Skjei on the left and acquired a top player for McD. I.e. in a sense levered a McD move by acquiring an offensive LD which are easier to come by than a RD. With that logic gone, with the infusion of good looking young players into the system -- that requires some veteran leadership -- I just think the odds for finding something that makes enough sense right not is very low.
I think McD, Skjei, Ziba, Kreider and co are staying put. Zucc was one of few that showed up in the POs, who led the way.
Hayes? I think many at this place underrated him, don't really acknowledge the limitations you also get with that size. Attributes it to lazyness or whatever. I don't think we are concerned about a logjam at center. I am not a fan of Hayes on the wing, but Zib is basically a natural winger. Lias can definitely play on the wing. I like Chytil at center, but a kid like him can definitely play a few years on the wing. I am of the school that you can never have too many centers, think they are more versatile than wingers and that a line with two center capable players on it play better. Becomes more well rounded. I don't think we are eager to trade Hayes looking over the next couple of years.
I am also not quite sure what we would be looking for in a trade.
One scenario -- I kind of like -- would be to within a time frame of say 6-18 months deal one of Pionk and DeAngelo along with forward for a top RD preferably with some size. In that case I would look at Miller as a sweetener if a real price could be had. You know like STL for some reason I can't understand would consider moving Parayko, Tony D and JT Miller for Parayko.
In short I think it's a deal you can leverage because it's not optimal to have three smaller RDs like Shatty, TDA and Pionk, deal one of TDA and Pionk to get a RD with size you open up a spotfor the other.
I would like the mix of our blueline better if it was like:
McD-Shatty
Skjei-Big RD like a Parayko/Mason
Graves/BG-Pionk/TDA
haohmaru
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He might have a better year in two years. You don't know.
I think Stepan is a decent two way center who was good enough to play as a 1st line center for the Rangers but wouldn't have on a long list of NHL teams.
I think Zooks would be a first line winger on most teams and imagine his numbers if he were with an elite 1C.
Still, no reason to give him away for nothing as a UFA. He's routinely taken a discount to play here and if he's willing to do that again you sign him.
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You’re making an assumption that Hayes wasn’t needed at center and that’s why he gets moved back over.
The guy wasn’t a center until he came to the NHL.
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Mate you are arguing about McD with a guy who continually calls him McDumbo.
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You don’t trade a 30 year old Ryan Mcdonagh guys that can skate like him play forever. Should anchor the blue line for the next 7 8 years.
They won't trade to help a team within the division. Sedlak plays a vital role for them on the 4th line, and special teams. Plus he's cheap.
CLB is loaded, and if Anderson signs, then they are deep up front as they are on the back end. If they don't exhaust Bob, and Ryan Murray takes that next step, this is a team that will have a lot of fire power.
They replaced a lot of their slower grinders with high skilled RH shots, and two way speedsters. That's going to equate to a nasty power play.
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Are you calling McDonagh - Girardi pairing the worst pairing in the NHL since the lockout?
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Agreed. Steps is such a likeable guy and I hope he has mad success....same with Raanta.
I really believe this is going to be one of those rare times where a deal ends up being a "win/win" for both teams...I really do. I'm also going to miss Steps show "Stepan Behind the Mic" which often times was hilarious when he would interview other Ranger players on random shit.
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The worst regular pair, not counting third pair scrubs, fill ins, and coaches being random, yes. The worst top 4 pair, if you will.
This should come as no surprise, as Girardi is probably the worst big minutes, bonafide regular in the history of the league.
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