Speculation: Roster Building Thread Part VIII: Autumn in New York

[Alluckks]

The worst regular pair, not counting third pair scrubs, fill ins, and coaches being random, yes. The worst top 4 pair, if you will.

This should come as no surprise, as Girardi is probably the worst big minutes, bonafide regular in the history of the league.

Since the lockout...

I, uhhh, don't agree with you and I'll leave it at that

 

[Matt Rentfree]

I'm not even talking about ceilings here.

Miller scored 3 less points than Zuccarello last season, Kreider scored 6 less, I'd argue they are our two best wingers, but I'm big fans of both, so maybe not, but I think its close between those three. You are right that its a little more unknown with Buch and Chytil, but even if they hit their floors, they are still top 6 players, IMO. I think they are too far to be outright busts. Thats 4 top 6 wingers right there, even if they don't hit a higher ceiling.

And you are right that anything could happen, but I think its likely in a few years that Zucc will not be needed.

You're forgetting that there is something Zuccarello does that Kreider and Miller don't do - namely make the players they play with better. Zucc is really the only player on our team that does that.

 

[Ghost of jas]

You're forgetting that there is something Zuccarello does that Kreider and Miller don't do - namely make the players they play with better. Zucc is really the only player on our team that does that.

Except that I'm fairly certain it's been documented here that Kreider is such an elite driver of possession that whatever line he is on is dramatically better. Case in point was Stepan with Kreider on his line as opposed to not having him on his line. So, Kreider, in fact, does make his linemates better.

 

[RangerBoy]

If Brady Skjei picks up where he left off and he flourishes with more responsibility,what does Newport Sports want for 8 years? How much money for 8 years? 24-32 years old. Quality D and C are impossible to find. Parayko got 5 years at $5.5M AAV. Slavin got 7 years at $5.3M at AAV. How much for 8 years?

 

[haohmaru]

With Girardi as a partner, McDonagh is one of half of the worst pair since the lockout.

I'm already giving him the benefit of the doubt on that.

Yikes. This is just ludicrous.

 

[haohmaru]

If Brady Skjei picks up where he left off and he flourishes with more responsibility,what does Newport Sports want for 8 years? How much money for 8 years? 24-32 years old. Quality D and C are impossible to find. Parayko got 5 years at $5.5M AAV. Slavin got 7 years at $5.3M at AAV. How much for 8 years?

If he plays like last year I do 7-8 x 5.5 in a second.

 

[ManUtdTobbe]

Except that I'm fairly certain it's been documented here that Kreider is such an elite driver of possession that whatever line he is on is dramatically better. Case in point was Stepan with Kreider on his line as opposed to not having him on his line. So, Kreider, in fact, does make his linemates better.

Yeah, Kreider is definitely a catalyst for driving play, but so is Zuccarello, by far our two best overall forwards.

 

[RangerBoy]

The Rangers hired former NHL player Patric Kjellberg to scout Sweden for them. Kjellberg ran the Leksand team in Sweden a while ago. The Rangers previous Swedish Anders Kallur retired. That's the only new change which wasn't announced. Jeff Buekeboom is listed as a scout. He was offered a scouting position at the time of the coaching staff change. The Rangers grouped with pro and amateur guys together. Steve Eminger is a new pro scout.

Scouts Larry Bernard, Jeff Beukeboom, Rich Brown, Brendon Clark, Daniel Dore, Eric Doyle, Mikko Eloranta, Steve Eminger, Jan Gajdosik, Kim Gellert, Oto Hascak, Jamie Herrington, Rick Kehoe, Patric Kjellberg, Gilles Leger, Vladimir Lutchenko, Justin Sather, Peter Stephan

https://www.nhl.com/rangers/team/front-office

Jeff Gorton didn't fill Steve Greeley's former role as assistant director of player personnel. I wonder if he got annoyed at Chris Drury being named AGM. Greeley went to Buffalo as one of two AGM's. Greeley sounded so happy to join the Rangers two years ago. How much he liked and admired Gorton. Maybe the opportunity was too good for Greeley to turn down. Maybe he wanted that role with the Rangers. Greeley had Gorton's role before Gorton was elevated to AGM in 2011. Gorton didn't fill that vacancy. Drury is Gorton's top lieutenant. You hear AV say I will will talking to Gorts and Chris about the roster.

 

[bernmeister]

If Brady Skjei picks up where he left off and he flourishes with more responsibility,what does Newport Sports want for 8 years? How much money for 8 years? 24-32 years old. Quality D and C are impossible to find. Parayko got 5 years at $5.5M AAV. Slavin got 7 years at $5.3M at AAV. How much for 8 years?

8 would be great
best long term economizing by offering max term

 

[Avery16]

Seems like a lot of role players this board wanted badly have been released from either their first or second PTO recently

 

[Vitto79]

Vatrano may be on waivers , I’d take him and not sign Desjardin

 

[Avery16]

Zip: kovacs on unconditional waivers, will return to sweden

 

[Avery16]

I’d not sign Desjardins and just call up puempel or Nieves if needed

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

The aftermath of the 2015 draft is so terrible it really isn’t even funny at this point

 

[ManUtdTobbe]

The aftermath of the 2015 draft is so terrible it really isn’t even funny at this point

Hindsight is 20/20. 2015 looks bad now, but NYR didn't draft badly. NYR drafted much better in 2015 then we did in 2014, just didn't work out, Saarela, Kovács, Morrison and Huska were all good/decent high risk/reward picks. Gropp was a bad pick but Gordie loved him, Bernhardt came off a very strong season in SuperElit, him busting hard is very surprising actually and Zborovskiy was a meh pick that looks pretty ok in hindsight.

 

[Griffinbw]

Vatrano may be on waivers , I’d take him and not sign Desjardin

If Vatrano hits waivers you take him all day. Doubt he would fall to us though

 

[Kovalev27]

I think Huska is our top goalie prospect but the rest of that draft was a nightmare. Couldn’t afford it with how many picks we’ve dealt away.

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

I think Huska is our top goalie prospect but the rest of that draft was a nightmare. Couldn’t afford it with how many picks we’ve dealt away.

Shesty says "privet"

 

[ManUtdTobbe]

I think Huska is our top goalie prospect but the rest of that draft was a nightmare. Couldn’t afford it with how many picks we’ve dealt away.

Yeah, it looks bad in hindsight, but that draft wasn't bad on draft day.

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

If Vatrano hits waivers you take him all day. Doubt he would fall to us though

I don't know anything about him, but his stats are decent. What's his game? He seems to have a similar build to Desharnais.

 

[SA16]

His game is to get the puck and shoot it on goal over and over again.

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

Dylan McIlrath on waivers

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

His game is to get the puck and shoot it on goal over and over again.

MIND. BLOWN.

 

[Hire Sather]

Dylan McIlrath on waivers

Let's claim him to stick it to our coach!

 

[Griffinbw]

His game is to get the puck and shoot it on goal over and over again.

This is accurate. Pretty quick skater. Physical. I like him in our bottom 6.
He was expected to play in Boston’s top 6 this season, but underperformed in camp.