Roster Building Thread - Part VIII (2023-24 season)

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He is what he is. He finally scored so I stopped criticizing but lately I see more and more fans acknowledging that he’s not an NHL player. You say you think he has the talent. He’s 30 not 23. He’s much closer to the end of his career. He doesn’t have the talent.

On to the next shiny toy.
He’s definitely an NHL player, just not a very good one. I’d say he’s a fringe player
 
Agreed. If I’m giving up a first we might as well go for someone younger who we could resign or has term
Honestly I am hoping Drury has the stugots to trade Lindgren.

Kind of thinking if you could do something around Lindgren and Kakko for Hanifin. Works cap wise. Calgary gets to pretend they stay competitive; they get two RFAs in for a UFA; so they get some player control out of it. Rangers may or may not need to add but Lindgren to Hanifin is probably a big upgrade. If Hanifin doesn’t work out, (or even if he does) you let him walk and there’s your money to keep Gus. That raises the ceiling on the team. If you can keep a first out of the deal that’s how you can get another forward in too.
 
Agreed. If I’m giving up a first we might as well go for someone younger who we could resign or has term

Yes this

Honestly I am hoping Drury has the stugots to trade Lindgren.

Kind of thinking if you could do something around Lindgren and Kakko for Hanifin. Works cap wise. Calgary gets to pretend they stay competitive; they get two RFAs in for a UFA; so they get some player control out of it. Rangers may or may not need to add but Lindgren to Hanifin is probably a big upgrade. If Hanifin doesn’t work out, (or even if he does) you let him walk and there’s your money to keep Gus. That raises the ceiling on the team. If you can keep a first out of the deal that’s how you can get another forward in too.

Lindgren AND Kakko for Hanifin? No way.
 
What about something around Quick for McLeod from Edmonton? He’s a 4th liner there but his underlying stats are good. Still young. Edmonton gets a 1B very inexpensive goalie for this season. Quick gets to be a starter again. It would force the Rangers to have Domingue as the backup going forward but McLeod would be a really nice 3C this year as a fill in and he could be around for a while
 
Panarin on pace for 53 goals and 117pts. Not bad.

What about something around Quick for McLeod from Edmonton? He’s a 4th liner there but his underlying stats are good. Still young. Edmonton gets a 1B very inexpensive goalie for this season. Quick gets to be a starter again. It would force the Rangers to have Domingue as the backup going forward but McLeod would be a really nice 3C this year as a fill in and he could be around for a while

Would be a big risk if something would happen to Shesh. Dominique has never been the #1 and hasn't played in high pressure conference final or Stanley Cup final games.
 
What about something around Quick for McLeod from Edmonton? He’s a 4th liner there but his underlying stats are good. Still young. Edmonton gets a 1B very inexpensive goalie for this season. Quick gets to be a starter again. It would force the Rangers to have Domingue as the backup going forward but McLeod would be a really nice 3C this year as a fill in and he could be around for a while
Quick would retire before playing a single game in Edmonton. Quick and the entire team would despise Drury and Dolan. Team would crumble. Yes, great idea!
 
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What about something around Quick for McLeod from Edmonton? He’s a 4th liner there but his underlying stats are good. Still young. Edmonton gets a 1B very inexpensive goalie for this season. Quick gets to be a starter again. It would force the Rangers to have Domingue as the backup going forward but McLeod would be a really nice 3C this year as a fill in and he could be around for a while

are you on drugs
 
Trading Quick? Come on, he’ll retire a Ranger. Chytil season in doubt has to have Lindholm and Henrique as targets. Lindgren still gets clowned 1 on 1 a lot but we may have to suck it up and settle for a 7D upgrade. Prefer to not trade for rentals but the Rangers 1st this year is as good as gone
 
Gourde @ 50% retained. Start there.

Then see what other moves you can make. If Chytil is LTIR at least the rest of the year you could fit Gourde at 50% retained and another middle 6 winger. If that 2nd piece has retention you may be able to fit a 6/7 D.

I do not see them dealing Lindgren in season. Offseason yes, but not in the midst of one of their best seasons in franchise history. They wont upset the apple cart like that.
 
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Gourde @ 50% retained. Start there.

Then see what other moved you can make. If Chytil is LTIR at least the rest of the year you could fit Gourde at 50% retained and another middle 6 winger. If that 2nd piece has retention you may be able to fit a 6/7 D.

I do not see them dealing Lindgren in season. Offseason yes, but not in the midst of one of their best seasons in franchise history. They wont upset the apple cart like that.

Apparently Gourde sucks now but I think he’d look better as our 3C rather than Seattle’s 1C
 
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Call me crazy but Lindgren getting joaned by a particular sect of the fans right now is actually joan shrapnel from what should be directed at the way Fox is playing. Nobody was really getting on Lindy when he was paired with Gus. And this isn't me saying I'm mad at Fox or anything. And I'm DEFINITELY NOT saying that we should split up Fox and Lindy. I'm a well adjusted human being who happens to be a former high major DOBO. I understand the ebbs and flows of performance. Shesty just went through a stretch. Hank went through stretches, Mariano Rivera went through stretches. Foxy will be old reliable Foxy soon enough. Lindy/Foxy will be the old reliable pairing that we have seen for basically 4 seasons plus. Then we won't have to trade for a rental dman or resign that rental dman to a 7 mil contract and have multiple 7 mil+ dmen who won't qb our PP. Call me crazy.
 
Call me crazy but Lindgren getting joaned by a particular sect of the fans right now is actually joan shrapnel from what should be directed at the way Fox is playing. Nobody was really getting on Lindy when he was paired with Gus. And this isn't me saying I'm mad at Fox or anything. And I'm DEFINITELY NOT saying that we should split up Fox and Lindy. I'm a well adjusted human being who happens to be a former high major DOBO. I understand the ebbs and flows of performance. Shesty just went through a stretch. Hank went through stretches, Mariano Rivera went through stretches. Foxy will be old reliable Foxy soon enough. Lindy/Foxy will be the old reliable pairing that we have seen for basically 4 seasons plus. Then we won't have to trade for a rental dman or resign that rental dman to a 7 mil contract and have multiple 7 mil+ dmen who won't qb our PP. Call me crazy.

You’re not crazy but Gus looked “good” with Lindgren because he was scoring on PP1 when Fox was out imo. Fox looked mid for a couple weeks after being back from injury but I think since the Christmas break he’s looked excellent.
 
Honestly I am hoping Drury has the stugots to trade Lindgren.

Kind of thinking if you could do something around Lindgren and Kakko for Hanifin. Works cap wise. Calgary gets to pretend they stay competitive; they get two RFAs in for a UFA; so they get some player control out of it. Rangers may or may not need to add but Lindgren to Hanifin is probably a big upgrade. If Hanifin doesn’t work out, (or even if he does) you let him walk and there’s your money to keep Gus. That raises the ceiling on the team. If you can keep a first out of the deal that’s how you can get another forward in too.
everyone stop giving away Kakko
 
What about something around Quick for McLeod from Edmonton? He’s a 4th liner there but his underlying stats are good. Still young. Edmonton gets a 1B very inexpensive goalie for this season. Quick gets to be a starter again. It would force the Rangers to have Domingue as the backup going forward but McLeod would be a really nice 3C this year as a fill in and he could be around for a while
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Quick would retire before playing a single game in Edmonton. Quick and the entire team would despise Drury and Dolan. Team would crumble. Yes, great idea!

are you on drugs
.... and answered!!!!
 
Call me crazy but Lindgren getting joaned by a particular sect of the fans right now is actually joan shrapnel from what should be directed at the way Fox is playing. Nobody was really getting on Lindy when he was paired with Gus. And this isn't me saying I'm mad at Fox or anything. And I'm DEFINITELY NOT saying that we should split up Fox and Lindy. I'm a well adjusted human being who happens to be a former high major DOBO. I understand the ebbs and flows of performance. Shesty just went through a stretch. Hank went through stretches, Mariano Rivera went through stretches. Foxy will be old reliable Foxy soon enough. Lindy/Foxy will be the old reliable pairing that we have seen for basically 4 seasons plus. Then we won't have to trade for a rental dman or resign that rental dman to a 7 mil contract and have multiple 7 mil+ dmen who won't qb our PP. Call me crazy.
You are crazy. Everyone loves Lindgren but you simply cannot give him another contract. We saw this with Girardi
everyone stop giving away Kakko
another cap thing. Have to dive to get, don’t want to give another contract with wing depth on farm. May as well use the asset. Won’t miss him if he is in Calgary. Try to keep 1st
 
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What about something around Quick for McLeod from Edmonton? He’s a 4th liner there but his underlying stats are good. Still young. Edmonton gets a 1B very inexpensive goalie for this season. Quick gets to be a starter again. It would force the Rangers to have Domingue as the backup going forward but McLeod would be a really nice 3C this year as a fill in and he could be around for a while
Seriously? If I remember correctly, we got more for Cam Talbot who was never as good as Quick.
 
You are crazy. Everyone loves Lindgren but you simply cannot give him another contract. We saw this with Girardi

another cap thing. Have to dive to get, don’t want to give another contract with wing depth on farm. May as well use the asset. Won’t miss him if he is in Calgary. Try to keep 1st
We gave girardi that fat contract at 30.
Lindgren is 26. We’re not making him a top paid defenseman.
 
Players aren’t established until they are. Blackwell was a 27 year old with 10 points in 33 NHL games over two seasons before we signed him. Ppl here hated on him too, but he left here a commodity.

Brodinski shoots, skates, hits. He does what you want everyone to do. He’s put up some points too, recently.

I don’t get why so many on here are rooting for him to fail, but it doesn’t really matter. Mgmt obviously values him.
 
Players aren’t established until they are. Blackwell was a 27 year old with 10 points in 33 NHL games over two seasons before we signed him. Ppl here hated on him too, but he left here a commodity.

Brodinski shoots, skates, hits. He does what you want everyone to do. He’s put up some points too, recently.

I don’t get why so many on here are rooting for him to fail, but it doesn’t really matter. Mgmt obviously values him.
You don't name a player captain of your AHL club if you believe he has a long term NHL role.
 
I know Chychrun has been injured. It's a riskier move but has massive grand slam potential.

KAM Fox
Chychrun Trouba
Gus Schneider

I'd be in on Pinto already. I don't know what'd he cost though.
Chychrun has been injured for what seems like a decade now. Trading significant assets for him while expecting he suddenly becomes reliable seems like a hell of a gamble…
 
I wish we weren't such a boomer organization.

No guarantee that Othmann is the answer yet but why not try him in the top 6? Wheeler can center the 3rd line and Bonino can go down to the 4th where he belongs. But this org doesn't trust young players and is in love with Bonino, Wheeler, Goodrow, and Trouba types.
This is ridiculous.

G: Georgiev (HL sat games on his behalf), Shesterkin

D: Fox, Lindgren, Miller, Schneider

F: Laf (rushed), Kakko (rushed), Chytil, Cuylle coming up at the perfect time - should be the model for them.

Yea, what a “boomer” organization because Othmann is developing in the AHL as a 20 year old. Yea, let’s repeat the Laf and Kakko situation. Bring in a guy who may not be fully prepared then bitch and moan if he’s not on a top line or replacing a ppg forward on PP1. There may be a time for Othmann this season. It isn’t now.
 
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