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Roster Building Thread - Part VIII (2023-24 season)

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Kupo said:
For all we know, Chytil might be ready in 4 weeks but Drury and company want him to take the additional time off for his own sake, and to LTIR the f*** out of this broken system that other teams have taken advantage of. It's a win-win imo.

Honestly, even if Chytil is ready to go in a month, I'd still rather see the kid take some extended time off. It won't hurt, that's for sure.
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I think him heading home means he might be shut down for the year. If not, at least 2-3 months. It does nothing for the Rangers to announce that publicly. If anything, it hurts leverage in future moves. Maybe he’s got a shot to come back, but I don’t think a guy heading back to Eastern Europe is coming back in the foreseeable future. I don’t think the going home to Czechia announcement is followed up in two weeks with “He’s amping up activity, and nearing a return.” He’s leaving their doctors care as well which makes it seem to me - just speculation - he’s in long term wait and see mode. Not amping up and showing progress mode. Just my speculation - maybe totally wrong.
 
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NYR Viper said:
What about something around Quick for McLeod from Edmonton? He’s a 4th liner there but his underlying stats are good. Still young. Edmonton gets a 1B very inexpensive goalie for this season. Quick gets to be a starter again. It would force the Rangers to have Domingue as the backup going forward but McLeod would be a really nice 3C this year as a fill in and he could be around for a while
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Quick - a greatly respected vet - takes league minimum or close to it to be here. Rangers ship him to Edmonton? Aside from the fact he’s never getting on that plane, that has zero chance of happening.
 
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Avery16 said:
Players aren’t established until they are. Blackwell was a 27 year old with 10 points in 33 NHL games over two seasons before we signed him. Ppl here hated on him too, but he left here a commodity.

Brodinski shoots, skates, hits. He does what you want everyone to do. He’s put up some points too, recently.

I don’t get why so many on here are rooting for him to fail, but it doesn’t really matter. Mgmt obviously values him.
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Brody is what he is. He’s done a solid job as a fill in. The team is winning and he’s been fine which is all he’s being asked to be. If he’s still in the lineup come the deadline, then I’m sure Drury will be on the lookout for an upgrade. In the meantime, there is zero reason to run out and move assets to try and add a slightly better player.
 
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NYR Viper said:
What about something around Quick for McLeod from Edmonton? He’s a 4th liner there but his underlying stats are good. Still young. Edmonton gets a 1B very inexpensive goalie for this season. Quick gets to be a starter again. It would force the Rangers to have Domingue as the backup going forward but McLeod would be a really nice 3C this year as a fill in and he could be around for a while
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Quick has a 10 team NTC.
It’s pretty safe to bet that all 7 Canadian teams are on that list. Three other good guesses would be Columbus, Minnesota and Buffalo.
Teams that don’t need Quick as of today:
Boston
Florida
Isles
Chicago
St. Louis
Dallas
Anaheim
San Jose
Los Angles (Talbot stays healthy)
Washington (Depending on Lindgren’s injury)
Philadelphia
Nashville
For teams with playoff hopes and need of a starter or are worried about their starter’s health or longevity Quik is a great option.
Low salary, short term.
Valuable chip for Drury.
 
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Quick was traded for a 7th round pick last year he has no value and that’s not significantly changing because he’s played 5 good games this year. Besides, no playoff team traded away their backup goalie mid season and no team trades a useful skater for one.
 
Avery16 said:
Players aren’t established until they are. Blackwell was a 27 year old with 10 points in 33 NHL games over two seasons before we signed him. Ppl here hated on him too, but he left here a commodity.

Brodinski shoots, skates, hits. He does what you want everyone to do. He’s put up some points too, recently.

I don’t get why so many on here are rooting for him to fail, but it doesn’t really matter. Mgmt obviously values him.
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I personally disliked Blackwell because his usage hindered the development of Kakko and Laf. The arguments about the NHL not being a developmental league are very appropriate now, but those kids should have been getting offensive opportunity in a year when the team was not going anywhere.
 
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IDvsEGO said:
We gave girardi that fat contract at 30.
Lindgren is 26. We’re not making him a top paid defenseman.
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Lindgren has more damage on him than Girardi did. The Rangers can’t make another cap ruining extension on a guy who is already in decline
 
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GAGLine said:
There's zero chance Quick gets traded.
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Not only that, it would be an awful look for the organization by trading a future Hall of Famer who signed here because NYR were his childhood team. It would be a red flag for future players wanting to sign here. Not only that, Quick has been a huge safety net for Igor this season when he got hurt and when he slumped. Who’s backing up Igor if you trade Quick? An unknown Garand? Domingue? What happens if Igor gets hurt or slumps again? Bad recipe. I know some people on here have the Charles Wang mindset with goaltending and you can just throw a random sumo wrestler in net and win a Cup but that’s the wrong approach.
 
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Savant said:
Lindgren has more damage on him than Girardi did. The Rangers can’t make another cap ruining extension on a guy who is already in decline
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What do you think this extension would look like that would be so crippling?
 
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huerter said:
What do you think this extension would look like that would be so crippling?
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Anything that is a raise on what he is making now. He’s already in decline, his body has already taken a ton of damage. The team is already capped out. You can’t waste a cap increase to pay an extension to a guy who is unlikely to justify it. The Rangers need to do better

KOVALEV022473 said:
I think it was a foolish mistake not signing him. Hopefully, it doesn’t come back to bite us.
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They could not afford him. All accounts are Detroit had the highest offer
 
Barnaby said:
I think him heading home means he might be shut down for the year. If not, at least 2-3 months. It does nothing for the Rangers to announce that publicly. If anything, it hurts leverage in future moves. Maybe he’s got a shot to come back, but I don’t think a guy heading back to Eastern Europe is coming back in the foreseeable future. I don’t think the going home to Czechia announcement is followed up in two weeks with “He’s amping up activity, and nearing a return.” He’s leaving their doctors care as well which makes it seem to me - just speculation - he’s in long term wait and see mode. Not amping up and showing progress mode. Just my speculation - maybe totally wrong.
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Agreed, and if he is out for the year, the rangers will have around like $16,000,000 in cap space at the deadline to mess around with. Theyll pretty much be able to do anything they want.

IF we have that much space, what do you think drury is willing to part with and who do you think we target?
 
Savant said:
Anything that is a raise on what he is making now. He’s already in decline, his body has already taken a ton of damage. The team is already capped out. You can’t waste a cap increase to pay an extension to a guy who is unlikely to justify it. The Rangers need to do better


They could not afford him. All accounts are Detroit had the highest offer
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The accounts I heard, the Rangers didn’t even tender an offer, but one thing I am certain of, he would’ve taken almost anything the Rangers offered him.
 
Honestly if we slot the players we have correctly when fully healthy I don't really see the need for an acquisition. Vesey is a good top-9 player, Cuylle is a 4th line banger who can pot a goal here and there. Play them accordingly.

Panarin-Trocheck-Lafreniere
Kreider-Zibanejad-Wheeler
Vesey-Chytil-Kakko
Cuylle-Goodrow-Pitlick
Bonino

But we really need a replacement for Chytil if he's out for the playoffs. Short term I think we should try Wheeler at 3C and put Vesey on the Zibanejad line to see if it works, but we need a Copp-type player 100% more than a Tarasenko in that case.
 
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kyk1827 said:
Agreed, and if he is out for the year, the rangers will have around like $16,000,000 in cap space at the deadline to mess around with. Theyll pretty much be able to do anything they want.

IF we have that much space, what do you think drury is willing to part with and who do you think we target?
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I don't think that number is accurate. We haven't been accruing any space with Fil on LTIR.
 
Boris Zubov said:
I don't think that number is accurate. We haven't been accruing any space with Fil on LTIR.
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Correct. Looking at Cap Friendly they don't have any accrued deadline cap space, just what they are not currently using of thr LTIR which is about $5.6M. Which they can only use if Chytil (and Kakko) are out for the rest of the regular season.

By all indications, Kakko will be back at some point during the regular season, so that $5.6M number will be less.
 
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Barnaby said:
This is ridiculous.

G: Georgiev (HL sat games on his behalf), Shesterkin

D: Fox, Lindgren, Miller, Schneider

F: Laf (rushed), Kakko (rushed), Chytil, Cuylle coming up at the perfect time - should be the model for them.

Yea, what a “boomer” organization because Othmann is developing in the AHL as a 20 year old. Yea, let’s repeat the Laf and Kakko situation. Bring in a guy who may not be fully prepared then bitch and moan if he’s not on a top line or replacing a ppg forward on PP1. There may be a time for Othmann this season. It isn’t now.
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There’s also a huge difference between a guy who was drafted 1oa, versus 16th.
 
Barnaby said:
I think him heading home means he might be shut down for the year. If not, at least 2-3 months. It does nothing for the Rangers to announce that publicly. If anything, it hurts leverage in future moves. Maybe he’s got a shot to come back, but I don’t think a guy heading back to Eastern Europe is coming back in the foreseeable future. I don’t think the going home to Czechia announcement is followed up in two weeks with “He’s amping up activity, and nearing a return.” He’s leaving their doctors care as well which makes it seem to me - just speculation - he’s in long term wait and see mode. Not amping up and showing progress mode. Just my speculation - maybe totally wrong.
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Even if he went back for a mere month - it will be at least another few games until he’s game ready. Very unlikely it’s anything less and if so - not by much at all.
 
Blake Wheeler Scoring:
October - 0 points
November - 6 points
December - 9 points

Pretty good rebound after 0 points in his first 10 games Blake has had 15 points in his next 25 games.
 
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Barnaby said:
Brody is what he is. He’s done a solid job as a fill in. The team is winning and he’s been fine which is all he’s being asked to be. If he’s still in the lineup come the deadline, then I’m sure Drury will be on the lookout for an upgrade. In the meantime, there is zero reason to run out and move assets to try and add a slightly better player.
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Yup. How’s it bad to have him as 14th forward depth wise? Any forward spot in bottom-6, PK and 2PP option? I just don’t get how folks do not see value in that, again keeping in mind that he’s 14th on the depth chart for a league minimum $$?!?
 
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