Roster Building Thread - Part VIII (2023-24 season)

[The Crypto Guy]

Wild that Bedard has already scored more points than Laf's rookie year. PP time is huge

And getting almost 20 minutes a game, compared to whatever Laf got (12 minutes?)

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

That and Bedard is f***ing awesome.

 

[RangersFan1994]

Odd, they pulled the K’Andre Miller Video. This feed is controlled by the NHL not the Rangers organization.
Wasn’t much. He said he was going through something that for now he is keeping private. Also that it was up to the Coach if he would play tomorrow. Last part I will paraphrase, something about when he’s on the ice it is his safe place.

I don't want to speculation but the way he talked little about it and the wording, does anyone think its depression, mental health or substance abuse? Or maybe a family issue?

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

I don't want to speculation but the way he talked little about it and the wording, does anyone think its depression, mental health or substance abuse? Or maybe a family issue?

I don’t want to speculate…

*starts speculating*

 

[Profet]

Wild that Bedard has already scored more points than Laf's rookie year. PP time is huge

It helps when you are talented, hungry, and skilled.

 

[Flan the incredible]

He won that Norris partnered with Lindgren. We've all watched the games with Fox partnered with anyone else.

yea because Ryan Lindgren was the reason he won the Norris. The only other dman that has any skill whatsoever that he has been parterned with is Miller and that time has been very limited.

 

[mike14]

Wild that Bedard has already scored more points than Laf's rookie year. PP time is huge

I'm sure the PP helps him build confidence, but he only has 5 PP points so far and 18 at EV (one goal and one assist behind Laf's EV points in year 1, in exactly half the games played).
Laf simply wasn't ready for NHL hockey in his rookie season

 

[The Crypto Guy]

It helps when you are talented, hungry, and skilled.

Hey now, Laf likes a good cheeseburger and fries like the rest of us.

 

[Profet]

Hey now, Laf likes a good cheeseburger and fries like the rest of us.

But he calls it a royale with cheese.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

I think we still need someone to work with Kakko, someone who can teach him how to use his body to work himself into scoring position. Wonder what Lindros is up to, someone like him that's done it, id say Nash but he's with Columbus i believe, maybe Adam Graves?

 

[RangersFan1994]

Kyrou is one player the Rangers should consider because he fits a need but because of cap space wasted on depth like Goodrow and Kakko, most likely can't happen .


A line of Kreider Mika Kyrou sounds entertaining.

 

[Kendo]

The issue isn't that those options as 1-3Cs are not ideal, but the Rangers might have the worst organizational C depth around the league, at least of the playoff teams. At least there are options coming on RW, there is next to nothing for C. Bryce McConnell-Barker is the only guy that stands out, maybe Korczak, as a young center in the organization, and only one of them can be called up.

This is the reason people want someone like Lindholm, Gourde, Henrique, etc instead of adding a RW as a deadline candidate. We can move Chytil out there, you could play one of these guys out there. We added Copp that played center and filled in at times, but was on the wing with Strome and Panarin. You need versatility over 82 games. This team as constructed is missing a lot of that.

Agreed.

I'm a BMB truther, but it's gonna be a while. He should come up with Perreault, imo.

We do have some of the worst organizational C depth in the league, but a very good top 3. I'm hoping that Chytil's early injuries don't impact his career long term, so I'm going to assume he returns to his 40-point level or better. If that gets seriously compromised at any point, then we address it then.

I'm looking into Pinto if I'm Drury. Versatile C/W, possibly affordable in trade, should be cheap on a one (half) year contract, brings what Wheeler was supposed to yet hasn't (except for the leadership and experience, for whatever that's worth).

I want to have 4 top 3 C options and 10 top 9 F options overall. Wheeler and Goodrow having good seasons would bring us to that, but both being "not very good" on a 3rd line leaves us at 3 C and 8 top 9 F overall. Brodz having the time of his life Kind of adds a half to each.

We simply need to add one forward without losing one (since we need to wait for a couple to come back in the first place), and we need to add that one for almost nothing.

Zibs was basically as good or better than Brassard right from the start so that was a really good trade for us. To put it in terms of that Branch Rickey quote it was us trading the player (29 year old Brassard) 1 season too soon instead of 1 season too late.

I'm not looking to give KK away but if KK needs to be part of a package to get a top line forward or a top line Dman I'm open to it. We need top line players more than 40 point players in my opinion.

We traded Brassard at precisely the right time. We were lucky to do a 2015 deal in 2016 (that year earlier would have been the proverbial 1 season too soon). We couldn't have gotten nearly the same return a year later, so it was obviously not a year too late.

We need our middle 6 players to actually BE 40 point players before we need to add a 60+ point player.

The simple way to solve the center issue would be to have (2) guys on the 4th line who can play center which the team has in Bonino and Goodrow. The issue being, it would have been nice to take their combined cap hits and get a couple of guys who make ~$1.5-2m each.

For example:
Goodrow + Bonino = ~$4.65m in total cap hit
Eller + Lafferty = $3.6m
Eller + Blueger = $4.35m

These are just examples

I was calling for this over the off-season as well but Goodrow ties up so much cap space it kills the idea.

In saying that, the team has the highest scoring player in the AHL in far fewer games (at least at the time of his recall) in Brodzinski who is a center. He's been playing wing because that's what the coach wants to do (probably because Bonino shouldn't play wing) but the team has some depth there.

Count me in, yet again, for re-signing Brodzinki right now to a 2-year extension for this very reason. He's cheap insurance that can play wing or center and also lead in the AHL.

I'm okay with dumping Goodrow if it's not costly. If that happens, then I'm down with Vesey-ing Brodz.

 

[RGY]

Kyrou is one player the Rangers should consider because he fits a need but because of cap space wasted on depth like Goodrow and Kakko, most likely can't happen .


A line of Kreider Mika Kyrou sounds entertaining.

Cap space wasted on “depth” like Kakko?? Lmao what?!?!

 

[RangersFan1994]

Cap space wasted on “depth” like Kakko?? Lmao what?!?!

I was being sarcastic since he is not worth his cap hit right now lol

It’s a shame Rangers dont have cap space for players with talent

 

[Vitto79]

Well STL is gonna rebuild so Buchnevich isn’t a bad target but what goes back on the cap?

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Doubtful Kyrou is going anywhere, if anything Berube's firing probably had something to do with his production and relationship with the coach so he's probably staying now he's gone

 

[huerter]

Any time you can covet a guy who won’t play pp1 and is a -44 in the last 1.25 seasons and makes an S ton you just have to.

 

[Kocur Dill]

I think we still need someone to work with Kakko, someone who can teach him how to use his body to work himself into scoring position. Wonder what Lindros is up to, someone like him that's done it, id say Nash but he's with Columbus i believe, maybe Adam Graves?

He works with Rantanen and a few others every summer, you'd think he'd pick up a few things from him by now if he were capable.

 

[NickyFotiu]

If Chytil is skating on own, walking the MSG concourse, and taking photos with fans, he isn't done for the year. Rangers being very cautious with injuries. Have a feeling this was a major reason why Ramsay was dumped.

I 1000% hope Chytil is okay but I wouldn't jump to any conclusions good or bad just based on those things. Post concussion stuff is very tricky. Even just the brightness of the MSG lights can be an issue.

I don't want to speculation but the way he talked little about it and the wording, does anyone think its depression, mental health or substance abuse? Or maybe a family issue?

I don't want to speculate but I do not think a substance issue would be such a quick turnaround.

 

[Ruggs225]

I don't want to speculate but I do not think a substance issue would be such a quick turnaround.

I would also think it would be reported if it was substance abuse bc he would join the NhL substance program.

 

[NickyFotiu]

I would also think it would be reported if it was substance abuse bc he would join the NhL substance program.

You are right. I did not think about that.

 

[RangersFan1994]

How about Kasperi Kapanen, Brandon Duhaime or Tanner Pearson at the deadline? Wont cost too much.

 

[BobMarleyNYR]

I think we still need someone to work with Kakko, someone who can teach him how to use his body to work himself into scoring position. Wonder what Lindros is up to, someone like him that's done it, id say Nash but he's with Columbus i believe, maybe Adam Graves?

Kreider did like his first 5 years.

 

[IDvsEGO]

I would also think it would be reported if it was substance abuse bc he would join the NhL substance program.

He’s not required to be in the substance abuse program.

 

[NickyFotiu]

“I just tried to focus on getting back to the rink, having a good practice and getting my feet under me and just try and get moving out there,” Miller said. “Still, there are some things up in the air and obviously the coaches have the final say.”

They are keeping something private but this line is noteworthy.