Roster Building Thread - Part VIII (2023-24 season)

[TGWL]

No one is saying Lundqvist never stole games or series......i'm saying a team in front him never got their shit so far pushed in like they did last year against Jersey.

It's really not close. Devils almost lapped the Rangers in high-danger scoring chances at even strength.

54 vs 98.
11 goals saved above expected.

No team in front of HEnrik Lunqdvist got consistently and as outplayed as they did last year against the debs, it's almost a fact.

2011 vs Craps is somewhat close, Hank wasn't a savior that year though.

There were a lot of series where the other team pounded NYR for long stretches at a time. I guess you can say the difference is NYR also pushed back a little and found ways to either win, or make the games close. Which is a bit sad since those teams were far worse than what we had last year. But the team in front of him absolutely got pounded and pounded, and pounded. He was able to save their ass.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Uh..Matthew Tkachuk?

Bobrovsky for once wasn't a liabiltiy and made some saves but he was not stealing them games. He was giving his team a chance and allowed the Panthers as a group to settle in and go on a run

He absolutely was.

He had the highest goals saved above expected since the stat was a thing. Blew everyone else out of the water through 3 rounds. Even 2022 Igor.

 

[Richard Banger]

If a team NEEDS elite goaltending to win, they aren't winning the Cup. Or more accurately, if your best player is the Goalie, you are cooked.

That’s just not true. Plenty of teams have won the cup with the best player being their goalie.

 

[haohmaru]

Uh..Matthew Tkachuk?

Bobrovsky for once wasn't a liabiltiy and made some saves but he was not stealing them games. He was giving his team a chance and allowed the Panthers as a group to settle in and go on a run

Uh...no?

Bob had the highest GSAA in the playoffs. He most certainly stole some games/series.

Carolina series - .969, .974, 1.000, .923 (63 saves game 1)
Toronto series - .944, .946, .917, .920, .962 (50 saves game 5)

 

[Savant]

That’s just not true. Plenty of teams have won the cup with the best player being their goalie.

Not in the cap era

 

[TominNC]

Lol stop.

Kravtsov, Andersson, McIlrath, the Buchnevich trade

Correct choices only over here!

Brennan was ready last year. We didn't want to burn a year off his pro contract and I get that. There's no excuse now. And for the record I like Cuylle. Maybe he was better at this camp (he was horrible in his stint last year). Organizationally the right move was to keep Othmann. But we just couldn't get it right if it smacked us in the face (see: Alexis Lafreniere)

I disagree. Othmann is close but didn’t look ready. Bring him up, give him 3rd Line minutes and the same people will he complaining about not developing him. Let him get some time in pro hockey against men like Cuylle did last year. Cuylle looked way more ready this camp than Othmann did. Sometimes we have to wait for the shiny new toy

 

[CLW]

Would Ivan Prosvetov be a worthwhile gamble to claim? Quick has looked horrible. Prosvetov had some real potential at one point. It hasn't been pretty lately but wonder if he could be a benny project

Prosvetov claimed by the Avs.

Halak was awful at the beginning of last season. Don't want a repeat with Quick this year.

 

[Machinehead]

Igor had the 2nd highest Goals Saved above expected of every goalie who played in the playoffs last year.

He played 7 games. He was anything but pedestrian.

The top guys shitting the bed is why they lost.

This is true.

And then Adin Hill won the Cup.

 

[Levitate]

I'm in the @Machinehead boat of goalie theory. It's random has hell and you don't need a high end goalie to win a Cup. Even the elite goalies shit the bed in the playoffs sometimes. All you need is a middle of the road goalie playing well to go deep. Elite skaters going on hot streaks, depth, and luck, in that order, are the major factors that distinguish between a deep run and a first round exit.

Igor was pedestrian and the top guys except for Krieder shit the bed against the Devils. No surprise they were eliminated.

yeah but you can't rely on middle of the road goalies playing well in the playoffs either, that's my point

 

[will1066]

Please drop the puck. I beg you.

 

[EdJovanovski]

We fast!

 

[DanielBrassard]

We fast!

Lol never would have guessed, seems improbable tbh

 

[haohmaru]

We fast!

Kreider with 92 of those.

 

[EdJovanovski]

Lol never would have guessed, seems improbable tbh

We're nowhere to be seen for 20+ mph though, I'd think the 20+ would be a better indication of the team as a whole being fast; 22+ is pretty much exclusively your fastest one or two skaters

 

[Filthy Dangles]

Bob was so dominant that Alex fooking Lyon found a way to play in 4 games of the Panthers run.

According to hockey ref, dude didn’t even save 2 Goals more than Igor in 19 games.

 

[mike14]

We're nowhere to be seen for 20+ mph though, I'd think the 20+ would be a better indication of the team as a whole being fast; 22+ is pretty much exclusively your fastest one or two skaters

what's the top 10 for 20+ and much more than the Rangers is that?

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

Half were the league clocking farts coming out of Laffs Rear end.

 

[Flan the incredible]

So now we want to trade Igor and go with a mediocre goalie and hope he catches fire to win a cup......wow.

Most teams in this league would die to have Igor as their goalie and fans here want to trade him......WTF.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

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[Kaapo Cabana]

Lol its easy to say shit in a room.

Its hard to action it on the ice.

I totally disagree with your notion. Actions matter in leadership, not words.

Being able to effectively communicate and motivate is very important in a leadership role.

both are equally as important

 

[will1066]

I remember some broadcast clocked Chytil on one of those bursts

 

[mike14]

So now we want to trade Igor and go with a mediocre goalie and hope he catches fire to win a cup......wow.

Most teams in this league would die to have Igor as their goalie and fans here want to trade him......WTF.

But there has to be a limit where you walk away, yeah?
If Igor asks for 11/6, would you give it to him?

 

[TominNC]

We desperately need games to talk about. Rather than disasters years in the future

 

[duhmetreE]

I remember some broadcast clocked Chytil on one of those bursts

I remember Kravtsov getting sent into the boards at 22mph

I’m sure that counts as one

 

[Shesterkybomb]

I honestly think Shesterkin doesn't get another contract here if Garand shows he can be a #1, and that the right decision imo. Move him, get assets, have a cheap #1 goalie.