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Roster Building Thread - Part VIII (2023-24 season)

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AirGut said:
you just know Drury is absolutely obsessed with Goodrow, if he didn't move him this past summer he isn't moving him mid-season, we're stuck with him for now until maybe next off-season. Won't be surprised if he still doesn't move him next summer either. It's one of the first players he made a move for when he was hired. One of Drury's "good ol' Hockey boys".

Duclair or Chinakhov would be a real sneaky move for us though.

Cuylle-Chytil-Duclair
Cuylle-Chytil-Chinakhov
those potential lines could be real good down the stretch, I don't think Kakko is going to come back the same player I fear. At least not for this season. Really need RW help again
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If the Rangers were getting Duclair I'd rather use him to address Zibanejad's RW.
 
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haohmaru said:
And then McDavid will demand a trade from us because our team will be that much worse than where he just left - for that same reason (his team sucks).
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1. We only make the trade if McD asks to come to the NYR.
2. The trade I proposed above would only make us much better not worse. We are playing without Chytil, KK, Perrault and 4 future draft picks already. The only player I added that is currently playing is Lindgren. Add McDavid to Bread, Laf, Zibs, CK, Vince, Cuylle, Vesey, Fox, Kam, Trouba, and Shesty. That is a team that could win this year and next for sure.

kovazub94 said:
Lindros - Forsberg trade. Be careful what you wish for.
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Which one of the guys I proposed trading (Chytil, KK, Lindgren, Perrault) is anywhere close to Forsberg? :)
 
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NickyFotiu said:
1. We only make the trade if McD asks to come to the NYR.
2. The trade I proposed above would only make us much better not worse. We are playing without Chytil, KK, Perrault and 4 future draft picks already. The only player I added that is currently playing is Lindgren. Add McDavid to Bread, Laf, Zibs, CK, Vince, Cuylle, Vesey, Fox, Kam, Trouba, and Shesty. That is a team that could win this year and next for sure.
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The trade you proposed Edmonton would never make.

It STARTS with Adam Fox, Lafreniere, and picks.

Edmonton is not trading McDavid for an oft concussed 2/3 C, a 2OA who hasn't figured it out yet, a guy 2+ years away from the NHL and some picks. Their fans would set the arena on fire.
 
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haohmaru said:
The trade you proposed Edmonton would never make.

It STARTS with Adam Fox, Lafreniere, and picks.

Edmonton is not trading McDavid for an oft concussed 2/3 C, a 2OA who hasn't figured it out yet, a guy 2+ years away from the NHL and some picks. Their fans would set the arena on fire.
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My hope is that McDavid specifically asking for a trade to the Rangers and our 4 first round draft picks could bridge the gap. If not then we do not make the deal so you have nothing to worry about. McDavid will have some leverage because he can leave the Oilers in 2 years.
 
The Coilers ask for Lafreniere, KAM and probably Garand as a starting point before sweeteners and picks are added. If we want him we will have the chance when he and Panarin become free agents the same year. Not interested in trading for McDavid.
 
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IDvsEGO said:
No one bitched about the amount. They bitched about the length.
And that was always a fair concern.
Copp got the exact same dollar amount but 2 less years. Trocheck has been fantastic, but he’s got 5 more years. The cap going up will help especially once he moves to 3c but next year will be tight, and the following even more so.
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Having our center axis for under $19m or so is entirely reasonable (and in Rangers case - it is also a very good quality to cost ratio as well) , so if you're concerned about cap tightness - we should be looking elsewhere.

NickyFotiu said:
1. We only make the trade if McD asks to come to the NYR.
2. The trade I proposed above would only make us much better not worse. We are playing without Chytil, KK, Perrault and 4 future draft picks already. The only player I added that is currently playing is Lindgren. Add McDavid to Bread, Laf, Zibs, CK, Vince, Cuylle, Vesey, Fox, Kam, Trouba, and Shesty. That is a team that could win this year and next for sure.


Which one of the guys I proposed trading (Chytil, KK, Lindgren, Perrault) is anywhere close to Forsberg? :)
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Of course - it is staring you right in the face :D . And one of these 4 firsts will definitely turn into HoF.
 
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Avery16 said:
I think the last one of us here who did the math on that estimated we’d have like $87k in deadline space. Who is that getting us?
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Depends on what else we send to the team we are acquiring from. Maybe they eat a contract? Either way I think it’s pretty rare teams cannot find ways to make the cap work for rentals; shenanigans are not uncommon
 
haohmaru said:
The trade you proposed Edmonton would never make.

It STARTS with Adam Fox, Lafreniere, and picks.

Edmonton is not trading McDavid for an oft concussed 2/3 C, a 2OA who hasn't figured it out yet, a guy 2+ years away from the NHL and some picks. Their fans would set the arena on fire.
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The Rangers aren't trading a top 10 player in the league for McDavid. The idea would be to add McDavid to Fox, not robbing Peter to pay Paul.

But yes, otherwise, a reasonable ask starts with Lafreniere, Chytil, two 1sts, and probably Othmann and/or Perreault.

The most realistic path to NYR acquiring McDavid is sending a bunch of futures and Chytil and Kakko Edmonton's way with Zibanejad going to a 3rd team he'd waive his NMC for, with what is acquired in that deal being parlayed as a part of the package to Edmonton. Zib isn't waiving for Edmonton.

I can see something like this in summer 2025:

To NYR:
McDavid

To LAK:
Zibanejad

To EDM:
Kakko (RFA)
Chytil (2 years left)
2025 NYR 1st
2026 NYR 1st
LAK 2025 1st
LAK 2026 2nd (becomes a 1st if LAK reaches the conference finals in 2026)
Brennan Othmann
LAK B level prospect

With other little bits and pieces going to NYR and LAK.
 
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gourde would be my #1 choice but i dont see seattle trading him

i could get behind duclair or zucker as well

EDIT: arizona signed zucker for a 1 year 5.3 mil deal.....hes out, no way we fit him under the cap
 
bl02 said:
Not bad but I fear that 4th line will go from very good to barely average without Vesey.
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Rangers in 7 said:
this is fine for now, but no way we go into the playoffs with vesey as RW1

go trade for someone
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I'd be willing to have a slightly less effective 4th line for a more effective 1st line. I would also support Vesey to the 3rd line with Cuylle. I am not a fan of making any more trades. Don't really like the market this year, unless someone not mentioned or known at this time shakes loose.

If possible sign Kessel. We still aren't sure what will happen with Kakko.
 
If the goal is just to make the playoffs we are fine the way we are. I personally would look to go for it this season because I do not see huge futures for CK-Zibs-Bread-Vince. Also concerned about Chytil and KK. I believe we may be in a 3 year window to get close to a cup.
 
I Eat Crow said:
The Rangers aren't trading a top 10 player in the league for McDavid. The idea would be to add McDavid to Fox, not robbing Peter to pay Paul.

But yes, otherwise, a reasonable ask starts with Lafreniere, Chytil, two 1sts, and probably Othmann and/or Perreault.

The most realistic path to NYR acquiring McDavid is sending a bunch of futures and Chytil and Kakko Edmonton's way with Zibanejad going to a 3rd team he'd waive his NMC for, with what is acquired in that deal being parlayed as a part of the package to Edmonton. Zib isn't waiving for Edmonton.

I can see something like this in summer 2025:

To NYR:
McDavid

To LAK:
Zibanejad

To EDM:
Kakko (RFA)
Chytil (2 years left)
2025 NYR 1st
2026 NYR 1st
LAK 2025 1st
LAK 2026 2nd (becomes a 1st if LAK reaches the conference finals in 2026)
Brennan Othmann
LAK B level prospect

With other little bits and pieces going to NYR and LAK.
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Can you even try to consider Kings needs in your proposal?
LA currently have Kopitar, PLD and Danault at center position.
Also, they have no available salary at all.
P.S. Byfield who is playing great this year will be switched to center before summer of 2025.
 
kinghock said:
Can you even try to consider Kings needs in your proposal?
LA currently have Kopitar, PLD and Danault at center position.
Also, they have no available salary at all.
P.S. Byfield who is playing great this year will be switched to center before summer of 2025.
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LAK are just an example. They'll have an elderly Kopitar and PLD isn't a full time center. Neither is Byfield. Who says Zibanejad is a center by then? He could very well play better as a RW by then.
 
RangerBoy said:


The Flames fans are not happy. They shouldn’t be happy. The comments are funny.
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He’s a pending UFA. Practically a rental and the return is in line with high-end rental Ds at last year’s deadline. Flames fans should temper their expectations.
 
I Eat Crow said:
LAK are just an example. They'll have an elderly Kopitar and PLD isn't a full time center. Neither is Byfield. Who says Zibanejad is a center by then? He could very well play better as a RW by then.
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Are there some type of notifications or alerts that people set up for whenever something random about their team is mentioned? Usually it's the NJD fans, but It always amazes me how they come crawling out of the woodwork like roaches. Imagine going on another teams' board and crying foul about a hypothetical Bern level deal that would be 2 years away? :laugh:
 
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