Our second pair sucks is quite the take on a team that is #1 in the league in goals against playing 9 games with our Norris winning defenseman out and our backup goalie playing most of those games. Sometimes you just say things to be a contrarian.
Roster Building Thread - Part VIII (2023-24 season)
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Our second pair sucks is quite the take on a team that is #1 in the league in goals against playing 9 games with our Norris winning defenseman out and our backup goalie playing most of those games. Sometimes you just say things to be a contrarian.
Machinehead
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They got outshot and outchanced pretty consistently. It's not a hot take.
Trouba has been a good player in this league and Miller certainly is but they don't complement each other together.
IMHO. What we should add is a good shut down left defenseman. Lindgren is too fragile for the way he plays. He won’t play cautiously; it’s not in his DNA.
Hopefully a player on an expiring contract or with term on a value deal.
There are plenty of teams that are awful, just need to wait till after the holiday break.
This season there is a good chance that up to 5 teams could be backing into the playoffs.
11 locks:
NY Rangers
Carolina
Boston
Tampa Bay
Toronto
Colorado
Vegas
LA
Winnipeg
Dallas
Florida
Fringe:
Vancouver
Pittsburgh
Detroit
NYI
Philadelphia
New Jersey
Capitals
Blues
All other teams should be looking to deal. That leaves 13 possible dance partners.
Hopefully a player on an expiring contract or with term on a value deal.
There are plenty of teams that are awful, just need to wait till after the holiday break.
This season there is a good chance that up to 5 teams could be backing into the playoffs.
11 locks:
NY Rangers
Carolina
Boston
Tampa Bay
Toronto
Colorado
Vegas
LA
Winnipeg
Dallas
Florida
Fringe:
Vancouver
Pittsburgh
Detroit
NYI
Philadelphia
New Jersey
Capitals
Blues
All other teams should be looking to deal. That leaves 13 possible dance partners.
EdJovanovski
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egelband
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This. Keep Kakko. His value is at its lowest now. Package or not. He either improves his value or remains status quo. either way he’s still a good bottom sixer so no reason not to roster him.
And for what it’s worth I think he’s gonna turn it around offensively. (Don’t think he’s an issue defensively at all).
UAGoalieGuy
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I posted the best contracts per point before (Also below). This is the worst. Good old Goodrow.
Hey at least we’re on both sides of the coin instead of just the bad one
Machinehead
HFNYR MVP
It's nice that when we have an injury now, we're inserting noted NHL player Tyler Pitlick instead of dreck like Leschyzzyhsnn or Rooney.
We’ve got layers of players between the team and the likes of Leshitshow now too.
The one thing drury did a great job of during the offseason was creating some
Depth between the roster and Hartford. Helps that there are a few legitimate forward prospects there right now too.
Machinehead
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That was Gorton's biggest weakness. He constantly built rosters with the intention of having no injuries the entire year, even when he was supposed to be competitive. Tanner Glass was next man up for many years.
There was that for sure.
His biggest weakness was thinking Nik Bobrov was worth hiring. Glad that he’s in Montreal doing stupid shit now.
I highly recommend watching the Habs draft preview from 2022 if you want a laugh. Bobrov sounds like a complete dolt making his case for Slafkovsky.
egelband
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Totally agree. A big ‘if’ but if this roster is healthy come playoff time I’m fine with status quo. I’m sure they’ll add a spare defenseman. Not sure if they need another spare forward. They have a bunch of good guys in Hartford. I’m still open to Kane if he wants to hop on the bandwagon for the minimum but that doesn’t seem likely.
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Yes, good…. we need you trashing him to get the Lafreniere effect.
Can you explain what went into the rationale of benching the guy who is tied for second on the team among forwards in PK time and first in defensive zone draws. This isn't EA sports.
NYR Viper
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I think I’d lean more towards a big physical forward who can fill in on any of the top-3 lines as needed. I’m confident Kakko will rebound and we have seen it, when he is playing well he is a very effective compliment to any line. Lafreniere on the right side being as effective as he is already changes that calculus as well.
I LOVE Cuylle but it’s also possible that slotting him down to the 4th line for the beginning of the playoffs would be a good move as well. In that case, another physical LW wouldn’t be a bad idea either.
I don’t hate the idea of Zucker from Arizona. He’s a bit of a speedy forechecked who could fit.
Trenin is still my guy though.
I LOVE Cuylle but it’s also possible that slotting him down to the 4th line for the beginning of the playoffs would be a good move as well. In that case, another physical LW wouldn’t be a bad idea either.
I don’t hate the idea of Zucker from Arizona. He’s a bit of a speedy forechecked who could fit.
Trenin is still my guy though.
Chytil is more established in the nhl, and might allow the coach to move laine back to wing. jd knows Chytil from his time here. Plus wasn’t there speculation that Johnson wanted out of Columbus which is why he switched agents?
Nashville may play their way out of that being an option.
They've been on it lately and they're smoking Winnipeg who is legitimately good. Had their goalie been his usual self this year they're in a playoff spot right now.
Rangers played like ass when they met but that loss is going to look less shitty as the season goes on. That is not a bad team, they'll likely play their way into the top 4 of that division.
Central is a good division.
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He's good but I shutter to think about what a line with him and Bonino would look like.
HFsNumber1Heel
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Naw, he's too similar to the current bottom 6ers, just a slower and heavier one.
egelband
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Absolutely. In a second. But I kind of think we don’t need a forward.
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Going to share this because I mentioned it earlier.
Yes Nik, what hockey historians are saying is really relevant in a scouting meeting before you select #1 overall. What an ass clown.
As much as I agree with the premise (creating off of the cycle>>>> off the rush, the latter is too easy to take away) I disagree with the bolded. A rush player is probably the best fit for Zibanejad especially if Kreider is going to be attached to him. It's literally the only way they create any offense.
Zibanejad can't/won't really impact a cycle based game at all and while Kreider can, he doesn't do it when paired with Zibanejad. If Wheeler can be a net positive off the rush then thats probably as good as its realistically going to get assuming that Kreider and Zibaenjad are a packaged deal.
My worries with the forwards really lie on Chytil's health, Kakko getting going and wtf is going to happen with the 4th line when Chytil does return. Goodrow is an easy scratch for me but the coaches won't see it that way and Bonino-Goodrow-who ever has been a f***ing disaster.
Yes Nik, what hockey historians are saying is really relevant in a scouting meeting before you select #1 overall. What an ass clown.
As much as I agree with the premise (creating off of the cycle>>>> off the rush, the latter is too easy to take away) I disagree with the bolded. A rush player is probably the best fit for Zibanejad especially if Kreider is going to be attached to him. It's literally the only way they create any offense.
Zibanejad can't/won't really impact a cycle based game at all and while Kreider can, he doesn't do it when paired with Zibanejad. If Wheeler can be a net positive off the rush then thats probably as good as its realistically going to get assuming that Kreider and Zibaenjad are a packaged deal.
My worries with the forwards really lie on Chytil's health, Kakko getting going and wtf is going to happen with the 4th line when Chytil does return. Goodrow is an easy scratch for me but the coaches won't see it that way and Bonino-Goodrow-who ever has been a f***ing disaster.
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