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Roster Building Thread - Part VIII (2023-24 season)

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Perry makes 4 mill so even if Chicago retains half its 2 mill. Much better way to improve the team with that kind of cap hit.

I know its been beaten to death but the best player who could improve the forward group is still lindholm. He can play C or RW. Match up nightmare as Rangers could roll 3 strong lines with Zibs, Tro and Lindholm our top 3 centers. Could play him as a RW with Zibs and Kreider. Guy can PK and I think he has a SHG and SHA this year. He can also play PP 2. Wins faceoffs and plays elite defense. Move Chytil and Goody and they might be able to sign him for 7millish. Plus I would bet Boston goes hard for him if we don't.

Rangers move Chytil+ for him at 50% retained and they have another 2 mill to improve the team.

Line Combos have me drooling

Kreid Zibs Wheeler
Panarin Tro/Lindholm Laf
Cuylle Lindholm/Tro Kappo
Goody Bonino Vesey

Kreid Zibs Lindholm
Panarin Tro Laf
cuylle Wheeler Kappo
Goody Bonino Vesey

To also be honest I think Kappo is playing his way out of the line up. I could see Drury grabbing another RW to upgrade his spot. Doing Chytil for Lindholm at 50% retained could leave them enough space for a Tarasenko type of RW. I can't even imagine how teams would game plan against that kind of depth and skill. Rangers would easily be cup favorites if healthy.
 
duhmetreE said:
IMO Sean Walker would be the best rental as a bottom pair D. Can play both sides and move the puck. We could use size, but I just do not see anyone available... Zadorov but I just don't see it happening

His name was brought up recently, Trenin would be another solid add for depth in the bottom6
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I’m all aboard the Trenin train and I’d be okay re-signing him too
 
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Flan the incredible said:
Perry makes 4 mill so even if Chicago retains half its 2 mill. Much better way to improve the team with that kind of cap hit.

I know its been beaten to death but the best player who could improve the forward group is still lindholm. He can play C or RW. Match up nightmare as Rangers could roll 3 strong lines with Zibs, Tro and Lindholm our top 3 centers. Could play him as a RW with Zibs and Kreider. Guy can PK and I think he has a SHG and SHA this year. He can also play PP 2. Wins faceoffs and plays elite defense. Move Chytil and Goody and they might be able to sign him for 7millish. Plus I would bet Boston goes hard for him if we don't.

Rangers move Chytil+ for him at 50% retained and they have another 2 mill to improve the team.

Line Combos have me drooling

Kreid Zibs Wheeler
Panarin Tro/Lindholm Laf
Cuylle Lindholm/Tro Kappo
Goody Bonino Vesey

Kreid Zibs Lindholm
Panarin Tro Laf
cuylle Wheeler Kappo
Goody Bonino Vesey

To also be honest I think Kappo is playing his way out of the line up. I could see Drury grabbing another RW to upgrade his spot. Doing Chytil for Lindholm at 50% retained could leave them enough space for a Tarasenko type of RW. I can't even imagine how teams would game plan against that kind of depth and skill. Rangers would easily be cup favorites if healthy.
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I have no problem with packaging chytil for an upgrade but it wouldn’t be Lindholm
 
Unless someone will lend us their time machine, I don’t want Corey Perry anywhere near this team unless we’re playing against him.
As of now Matt Robertson has little to no value unless the team we are trading with doesn’t employe AHL scouts.
 
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Trading Chytil will be a mistake. He is a guy with 60-70 point potential in a middle 6 C role, he’s 23 years old. The only reason you consider moving him is his injury history and that’s going to devalue him. Rather just keep him.

Trading Kakko would be a mistake. You have to be patient with these guys. They are young and finding their way. Kakko looks a little lost out there. Coach will find his role and get him comfortable. He’ll be fine I think.

That being said, the Rangers should definitely target a 3C at the deadline to bolster the lineup, only because chytil’s injury has exposed our C depth. Our W and D depth is pretty damn good though. We can maybe use an NHL caliber D to slot in above Jones for the playoffs as the 7D, and a bottom 6 C. The rest of the lineup needs no tweaks
 
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mas0764 said:
The Rangers need to add talented youth, especially center, not trade their youth away.
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Why does the age matter? Like unless you want to argue ELC vs not ELC I get it but the amount of guys who really pop on their ELCs is very small.

It doesn’t. Just bring in good players. Young, not young, this shit is dumb.

I’d be heavily in on Gourde if Seattle wants to listen
 
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GoAwayPanarin said:
Why does the age matter? Like unless you want to argue ELC vs not ELC I get it but the amount of guys who really pop on their ELCs is very small.

It doesn’t. Just bring in good players. Young, not young, this shit is dumb.
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Obviously you get more years out of younger players. Aside from that what you try to do is identify talent that has yet to break out, because the cost is lower. Both in assets you have to send the other way, AND in cap space. And talent that hasn’t broken out yet is normally YOUNG.
 
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GoAwayPanarin said:
Why does the age matter? Like unless you want to argue ELC vs not ELC I get it but the amount of guys who really pop on their ELCs is very small.

It doesn’t. Just bring in good players. Young, not young, this shit is dumb.

I’d be heavily in on Gourde if Seattle wants to listen
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Yeah, I’ll take Gourde, but not for Kakko.

It’s not dumb to avoid some of the foolish mistakes we made in ‘94 and beyond.

bhamill said:
Obviously you get more years out of younger players. Aside from that what you try to do is identify talent that has yet to break out, because the cost is lower. Both in assets you have to send the other way, AND in cap space. And talent that hasn’t broken out yet is normally YOUNG.
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You get more years, but frankly young players are mostly better than old players. Old players are the ones who have a much harder time fitting in or translating to new stops.

Get your own young guys, develop them, or at least add young players who aren’t too old to learn new tricks and have the time to learn how you want them to play.

It’s a thing. Youth is superior to age in this sport as a general rule.
 
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NYR Viper said:
I’m all aboard the Trenin train and I’d be okay re-signing him too
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Me too.

mas0764 said:
Yeah, I’ll take Gourde, but not for Kakko.

It’s not dumb to avoid some of the foolish mistakes we made in ‘94 and beyond.
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Well no they shouldn’t be adding used to be good but currently nothing more than weight like Glenn Anderson or Patrick Kane.

If a guy is older and can still play, then I don’t see the problem. If they need to trade off the roster and it makes sense/the fit is there then they should do it. Not saying that means trading Kakko here but it shouldn’t be off the table.

The current team is good. They have holes. It would be nice if they could fix some of them.
 
How about Ty Dellandrea or Luke Kunin to Rangers for 3rd or 4th? Right-handed center depth just in case Chytil gets hurt again. Has some size only 23 and 25 respectively. Not much offense at all, but both are seen as a bit of a agitator. Won't cost much in terms of value in a trade.
 
Drury seems to be particularly apt at acquiring various low-profile/budget players. Vesey, Gusto, Halak, Quick.. Even the Pitlick/Bonino/Wheeler trio while not being good per se, seems to be useful after all. At least for the regular season - that's what they were probably meant to be. Until we can recruit some high(er)-end talent.
 
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tlk said:
Drury seems to be particularly apt at acquiring various low-profile/budget players. Vesey, Gusto, Halak, Quick.. Even the Pitlick/Bonino/Wheeler trio while not being good per se, seems to be useful after all. At least for the regular season - that's what they were probably meant to be. Until we can recruit some high(er)-end talent.
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What you say here makes sense but I have to say… ”Gusto”? Please tell me that’s a typo. This is a hockey player, not a singles bar or a fashion boutique for ladies of a certain age.
 
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Flan the incredible said:
Who would you realistically target?
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I would put chytil in a deal for Johnson. Kid should be in the nhl but cbj has fantilli, Jenner, Sillinger and laine(still playing c?) ahead of him. Jd is familiar with chytil. No idea what the adds would be and would be a bit of a gamble for nyr to take a prospect even if I think he should be in nhl.
 
Flan the incredible said:
Who would you realistically target?
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I don't know how realistic it is, cap-wise, but Pettersson if he becomes available.

We either take a risk and trade him for a younger prospect or package him for a long term upgrade.

Lindholm could make sense to me if he came in at a Trocheck type contract….
 
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