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Speculation: Roster Building Thread Part VII: Return of Beaver Brad

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Lindberg Cheese said:
1. Hope Beargloves makes a difference but he's a nice to have

2. Our centers are fine today if everyone is healthy, we do lack depth

3. I think we're still paying Brad Richards, so while not on the roster he's on da books

4. Lias is getting a long hard look that I think will go beyond 10 games if he can be loaned back to the 'Lunda

5. # 4 is the only reason I can think of why we haven't been aggressive on FA or PTO forwards

4. Let's get training camp started already!!,
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And? He's on the books but not on the cap, and that's what matters.
 
Berserk said:
Tim Erixon looked amazing in the '11 tourney.
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Oscar couldn't be stopped one year as well. These tournaments are good to watch but the level of hockey can not be compared so we have to take things with a grain of salt. I think the preseason will give us a better view of our young guys so I look forward to that. Last season had a handful of guys that could play NHL hockey at a high level despite their age but they are the outliers.
 
Hire Sather said:
If Anderson steps in, that certainly solves a lot of problems.

It is becoming clear that they really believe he can, maybe even expect him to do so.
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I'm just worried he will be rushed . They need a Stepan replacement so let's hope Lias rocks it
 
Paulie Walnutz said:
I highly doubt the Rangers care about his out clause. This isn't a Zubov or a Gonchar. They're going to go with whoever plays the best. And with all due respect, a professional sports team isn't going to give a roster spot to a guy because a teammate needs a buddy.
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I think after a full season in NY Buch already has some friendships with his NYR teammates. I think his English has probably improved as well.
 
I don't think they'll burn the year off of LA's ELC since we'll need him as cheap as possible with our upcoming cap crunch. I think his contract slides, but correct me if I'm wrong
 
Kovalev27 said:
So far nothing impresses me about bereglazov. He's 23 year old KHL pro playing in a junior tournament. Should be dominant. I don't see it. Maybe this is why Holden is still here. This is a guy who's probably a 7 or 6th at the NHL level. I doubt we lose sleep over him heading back to Russia if anything. DeAngelo is on this team ahead of him and it's probably not close

Andersson I like the kid but to pencil him onto an NHL roster right now? Serious stretch.

There's a huge difference from the Euro leagues to the NHL. Nick Jensen is lighting that league up 2 weeks in. He's barely a 4th liner in the NHL.

I think we've left ourselves pretty short up front and I don't know why. We've got money to bring in another player so makes little sense to me
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Don't we have just a little over a half mil in cap space? Is it wise to waste that on a contract we might not even need if we shift Miller or if Andersson is ready?
 
Nyr2k2- Yeah for sure, and I think that it's especially 100% meaningless to like look at mistakes etc. Watch how a player plays the game, not how a few plays are executed! That is completely irrelevant.

The players that have done very well for us at Traverse have almost always been 21-23 y/o. There is always a very big difference between being 18 and 22. A Danny Kristo would like pwn a U18 WCHs. Any CHL team would beat the Canadian U18 team (you get what I mean). Age matters so much.
 
nyr2k2 said:
People read too much into this tournament. Every year. Yeah you want guys like Bereglazov to be dominant against less experienced competition. Yeah you want Andersson to look like a pro, since we want him to make it this year. But the reality is for a lot of guys these are the first competitive games they're playing all year, they're playing with an absolute mish-mash of talent and almost all their teammates are guys they've never played with.

So with all that in mind it's fine to analyze the performances of these guys in a small, pre-season, exhibition tournament with a bunch of random linemates, but it's unwise to take what you're seeing here and project it to regular season roster decisions and things like that. Let these guys get through camp and the exhibition slate before we start to really write a book on them.
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Agree with every word. It would be wrong to make projections onto regular season based what's seen in this tournament for a bunch of reasons.
 
Linden says the Sedins won't move at the deadline, so let's just skips those weeks of a black hole of a discussion
 
Pavel Buchnevich said:
That was before my time, sorry. :laugh:

I really didn't know that much about him. I had heard the name and seen him play before, but he wasn't on my radar as one of the top potential KHL free agents to watch closely for. He seems to have went under the radar, was a big piece for the runners up in the KHL last year. But I did watch a bunch of him last year in the finals against Shestyorkin's team, Magnitka was way overmatched, but he was one of the best players from either team in the series, in a series with many NHL caliber players (Kovalchuk, Datsyuk, Shipachyov, Dadonov, Shestyorkin, Voynov, Mozyakin, Zaripov, Lee), so it speaks well to his current ability. My read on his game is that he's a defensive type who's very bland with the rest of his game, but efficient enough. I don't think he's going to be the punching bag for icing the puck, not being able to get out of his own zone, but I also don't expect him to lead the rush, make great breakout passes, put up big point totals. So the hope from his game is like a more defensively solid and slightly worse skating Brendan Smith, which could be a 3D. The downside is a guy who's mediocre defensively, along with being bad with the rest of his game, maybe only like a 6/7D. Maybe current Staal is the downside?

I'm not all too optimistic about his game compared to some of our other prospects, but I think he's a lot safer than ADA, Graves, Pionk. He's shown a higher level than all of them in his hockey career, although there is definitely less offensive upside. But I actually think all these guys are going to be NHL regulars, and the team will have some choices to make, which likely leads to some of these players getting traded, probably Graves as the first one, and the odd man out of the other three next.
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Thanks for the detailed response. Malakov was a very talented 6'4" D man that was considered the Alex Kovalev of defensemen... immense talent, very little effort.

But he has the same build as Beargloves... but the puck skills with Vlad were much higher. He had the half slapper, which was a rocket... and some Soviet era skills that were the last of his kind in the NHL.

Hopefully Bear ends up pushing for a spot. I think

nyr2k2 said:
People read too much into this tournament. Every year. Yeah you want guys like Bereglazov to be dominant against less experienced competition. Yeah you want Andersson to look like a pro, since we want him to make it this year. But the reality is for a lot of guys these are the first competitive games they're playing all year, they're playing with an absolute mish-mash of talent and almost all their teammates are guys they've never played with.

So with all that in mind it's fine to analyze the performances of these guys in a small, pre-season, exhibition tournament with a bunch of random linemates, but it's unwise to take what you're seeing here and project it to regular season roster decisions and things like that. Let these guys get through camp and the exhibition slate before we start to really write a book on them.
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Good points, no need to react until the 4A competition starts in pre-season. You'll know whose ready then.
 
Anyone know if Janmark can come back from his injury this year... or is he done done?
 
Avery16 said:
I thought I read we had half a mil, but icant find that now. I think the 3 mil estimate isn't counting on Andersson or Bereglazov, so you might want to subtract 2 mil off that.
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Correct, the $3M number doesn't include Bereglazov or Andersson
 
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