Very easy to replace. Everyone here is overrating Lindberg when they say he'll be hard to replace
Personally,
I have no issue with Puempel-Desharnais-Fast (once he's back).
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Very easy to replace. Everyone here is overrating Lindberg when they say he'll be hard to replace
Personally,
I have no issue with Puempel-Desharnais-Fast (once he's back).
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Yeah I agree If he's slotted st 4c with miller Hayes and DJ Mika in front of him he's a perfect 4c for this system
What makes Jensen a better option on the fourth line than Puempel? They're the same age, Puempel has had slightly better AHL production and actually looked pretty decent in the NHL last year (and is a system fit) whereas in his seven games Jensen was just kind of...there. I have nothing against Jensen, I'm just curious why you continue to bemoan his absence when we have a player who is by all indications just as capable. It would be nice to have Jensen (or Hrivik or Klingberg or whoever) for depth but even if he were here I wouldn't be penciling him into a fourth line role.
I don't know if Puempel is "much" better but he has probably shown a little more. He's also a better fit for the speed, transition game we play. Our fourth line isn't the "traditional" fourth line of plodding shutdown grinders. AV wants guys on that line that can play the same style as the rest of the team. That's why they took a flyer on Puempel to begin with--even with his past struggles he looked like a good potential fit if he could put it together.
Puempel is a much better player than Jensen. Look at their careers and look at the small NHL sample size.
Mostly concur, rare disagree w GMJG.
Should have bought out Staal, and with G losing his NMC into partial NTC, then dealt him for a conditional 7th.
There is no hockey trade to be made here.
There may be a $ deal.
Detroit seems cooly detached bordering ambivalent about its cap situation, esp since they can throw Franzen on LTIR. But that not withstanding, they are still 3 and hair over the cap.
RD Green 6.0 expiring
G Howard 5.2 expires next season
RD McIlrath 600k + change
total 11.8+
LD Staal 5.7 x 4 but buyout candidate next yr
G Pavlec 1.3 expiring
F DeSharnais 1.0 expiring
F Tambellini, elc close to 800k
total 8.8
net gain to Wing = 3.0
that's their $ for AA
Tambo has outside 20% chance to make 4th line
DD conceivably movable
Rangers upgrade backup G this year + next, unless they move Howard next yr for younger guy who pushes him
Green moved as a rental when injury surfaces, recover cap
and McIl back is available enforcer at the A, plus, sticks it to AV.
don't get why hasn't happened yet, or may not at all
If we're going to talk about things that will never happen like Jagr, then I'm going to talk about Lindberg and Jensen
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Jensen and Etem are no different. Yet, Etem is considered a bust and Jensen is our 4th line savior.
bern, why do we need McIlrath? We have enough AHL D-men
It's not a matter of it not happening. I'm just interested to know why you're so bummed it's not.
Jagr would be a signing to fill a void if Miller is at center. Jensen would just be competing for a depth spot. It's not really the same.
I'll leave it alone though.
for the millionth time, we don't have the budget for Jagr, who is also too old and slow.
Jensen, who is NYR property and is on PPG pace in KHL, wouldn't have to compete very hard. He'd only have to beat out Nieves, Desjardins, and Farnham.
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Lol wants to get McIlrath to 'stick it to AV'
The guy went to 2 other teams last year, one of them a bottom 5 club and couldn't get pro minutes.
And sure, trade two guys we just signed because why not? Bern said so. Not illogical at all!!
Also, for your fear of NTC/NMC uou sure have no issue just tossing these guys anywhere you please. Why would Staal waive to DET?
The guy went to 2 other teams last year, one of them a bottom 5 club and couldn't get pro minutes.
And sure, trade two guys we just signed because why not? Bern said so. Not illogical at all!!
Also, for your fear of NTC/NMC uou sure have no issue just tossing these guys anywhere you please. Why would Staal waive to DET?
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I get the Jagr thing and why it's not happening. The point is however that's being discussed for a different reason--not to add depth or competition but to add a legitimate NHL player to fill a vacant position.
And Jensen would also have to compete with Puempel and potentially Desjardins who can play all forward positions. That's five guys plus any potentially surprising rookie player.
EDIT: Sorry you mentioned Desjardins. Regardless, "only" competing with four other guys is not an easy task.
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He'd only have to compete with Puempel once Fast is back.
Jagr is as unfeasible a discussion as is Lindberg.
Yea the guy who hasnt landed a contract and camp is starting is going to cost too much.
L.O.L.
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Yeah, because it's all AVs fault McIlrath was sent to the AHL after clearing waivers for 3 different teams
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Finding guys like Newbury, Halpern, Powe, Sheppard, Mueller, Stoll is easy.
That's a little different than finding B Boyle, D Moore, or Lindberg who realistically could have all moved up a line here and there when injuries struck and for the most part were putting up 3rd line production even from the 4th line, usually playing with something similar to Glass or Pyatt.
That's a little different than finding B Boyle, D Moore, or Lindberg who realistically could have all moved up a line here and there when injuries struck and for the most part were putting up 3rd line production even from the 4th line, usually playing with something similar to Glass or Pyatt.
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Rangers need to worry about shoring up Center before they think about handing out 7 mil+ to a winger they don't need.
The loonie is at .82 against the USD. Avg last year was .75. It's up 10%. Organic growth last season was around 5-6%. The PA only used 1.35% of the inflator last season due to Vegas.
A "high" cap scenario next season is 75m x 1.03 (today's CAD/USD rate) x 1.05 (organic growth) x 1.0365 (if the PA uses the full inflator this time) = 84m. My best bet would be lower than that, but still I wonder if we aren't going north of 80m. It's definitely possible, I mean it's last years scenario with the new loonie rate, no Vegas so the PA uses the inflator and the same growth. It's not the highest scenario. My bet however is that if the Cap will grow a lot anyway, the PA would refrain from using the inflator. But we will see, they are still communicating like it's the norm to use it.
I wouldn't sign a contract today with that out look, if the Cap takes a huge leap everyone will have money next season and the few good UFAs will get paid a ton.
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Is there any recent news about AA or Josh Anderson?
Anderson would be a nice get, but CBJ is fairly complete. He's basically what they need.
Anderson would be a nice get, but CBJ is fairly complete. He's basically what they need.
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Competition is competition, now or later. Whatever. Beating a dead horse at this point. Go on with the wistful longing for a guy that will turn 25 this season who has never made an impact or been able to stick in any capacity. And keep bringing up Jagr and Lindberg who are irrelevant to the discussion about Jensen. Whatever. I'm finished on my end.
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