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Speculation: Roster Building Thread Part VII: Return of Beaver Brad

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That's the biggest move we could make and it's the right one. Miller makes us very solid down the middle. It's time to give him that responsibility he's ready.

This is great news
 
Matz03 said:
I've been mostly optimistic with the changes this summer, hoping something happens later on or a surprise training camp invite, but now that we see the training camp roster is anyone else not very impressed? There seems to be a lack of forward depth, even Pirri, guy like Winnik would've been better options. We're a couple of injuries away from being a very weak team up front.
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I agree with this a bit, my hope is that management has been watching some internal guys closely and is reasonably confident that a few of them can step up and take the type of spots invites would usually take.

Most teams are a few injuries away from a weak offense. We could potentially have someone like Grabner on the fourth line with Fast, that's not a team without depth IMO.
 
So with AV calling Miller a center, that makes the lines:


Kreider-Zib-Buch
Nash-Hayes-Vesey
MZA-Miller-Grabner
Puempel-Desharnais-_______
Fast on IR to start the season

Missing anyone?
 
Gardner McKay said:
I don't know about that. When you consider the overall level of incompetence from Joe Sakic regarding the Duchene situation, nothing would surprise me.

Loved Joe as a player but man, he is a laughing stock as a GM.
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Hockey, more so than any other sport, is like a family run business in many ways.

That gives it a certain charm that is often lacking in say baseball or football, but also gives it certain complications.

You often end up having to fight the mentality that the people who played the sport are automatically experts in all areas of the game - from coaching to building a team, from marketing/public affairs to business development.

The result is you get a lot of people who are quite average to even below average at the job for which they've been hired or gifted.
 
Kovalev27 said:
That's the biggest move we could make and it's the right one. Miller makes us very solid down the middle. It's time to give him that responsibility he's ready.

This is great news
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Hey we actually agree on something! :cheers:

I said a few weeks ago that I wouldn't be shocked if Miller was a better C than Hayes this year
 
Mac n Gs said:
Hey we actually agree on something! :cheers:

I said a few weeks ago that I wouldn't be shocked if Miller was a better C than Hayes this year
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Haha I feel same way milller would be my 2C personally

But I feel light years better about this lineup with miller at center than Desharnais in top 9 or Andersson being rushed to the NHL.
 
Bruins PTO for Purcell, who I think would be a really good fit in our system.

Not sure what happened to him out west, if his wheels are failing him or if the opposition has figured out his game.
 
jtm in the middle makes alot of sense.

we then get vesey and buchy full time in a top 9 slot as well.

mika
jtm
hayes

looks good to me with one of DD, desjardins or LA as the 4C

miller is smarter, bigger, more confident and has shown the deft hands and passing needed to play the pivot position. defensively, he just needs to play his game and make the smart play. it easier to play the wing for sure. he's better suited to make the move today.
 
Grabner gets s too 9 spot which lets be honest he's earned.

Leaves Desharnais Fast puempel Nieves Gropp Andersson As real options for fourth line and 13th spot.

It makes sense
 
NYR Viper said:
So with AV calling Miller a center, that makes the lines:


Kreider-Zib-Buch
Nash-Hayes-Vesey
MZA-Miller-Grabner
Puempel-Desharnais-_______
Fast on IR to start the season

Missing anyone?
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I agree with the players you have in the top 9 but we will have to wait if those will be the combinations used for our top 9. I tend to think both JT and MZA will be in our top 6. I also think it makes sense to keep Grabner with Hayes.
 
I'd like to see this as a hard working 2nd line.

Nash-Miller-Zucchini

I think Miller would benefit a great deal.
Nash and Zuc would enforce a little more consistency into Miller's game.
 
Irishguy42 said:
https://blog.msg.com/2017/09/14/from-fast-to-faster/
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Very good article.

For three days in early August, in a hotel conference room on Manhattan’s East Side, we huddled, my coaching staff and I, to take stock of our team and map out the year ahead. Over binders filled with stats and scouting reports, and between maybe a thousand video clips, we brainstormed on how to take this new version of the Rangers — with a new group of players coming in and familiar ones stepping into new roles — and make it click.

With an eye toward maximizing the talents of each player, we broke the game down to its fine points, and when we parted, we had homework assignments. Each of us drew up schemes on the style and strategy that fits us best, in all zones of the ice, skating with and without the puck, from back-checking to special teams.

When we regathered a few weeks later, we had a consensus — reacquire Tanner Glass and Dan Girardi.
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NYR said:
I'd like to see this as a hard working 2nd line.

Nash-Miller-Zucchini

I think Miller would benefit a great deal.
Nash and Zuc would enforce a little more consistency into Miller's game.
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I would not mind that as a line. I would not be shocked if they outplayed our other lines.
 
Miller's big consistency problem is the same as Hayes' I think...sometime need to make the quick play. Shoot the puck, make the pass, don't try to hold onto it forever. Watched a few random playoff games from last year against Montreal and it'd strike me how often Miller in particular would make one move and get himself into a good shooting situation or buy himself some time, but then he'd just keep trying to do it again and again and eventually the other team would collapse on him and take the puck away.

you don't have all the time in the world, gotta make plays faster even if you can buy yourself a little time
 
Levitate said:
Miller's big consistency problem is the same as Hayes' I think...sometime need to make the quick play. Shoot the puck, make the pass, don't try to hold onto it forever. Watched a few random playoff games from last year against Montreal and it'd strike me how often Miller in particular would make one move and get himself into a good shooting situation or buy himself some time, but then he'd just keep trying to do it again and again and eventually the other team would collapse on him and take the puck away.

you don't have all the time in the world, gotta make plays faster even if you can buy yourself a little time
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I think having those two wingers will give him more options and require less time to think.

What I like about Miller's game over Hayes is that he goes to the net harder.
 
Kreider Zibanejad Zucc
Nash Miller Buchnevich
Vesey Hayes Grabner
Gropp Desharnais Fast
Puempel

Could see Nieves make it over Gropp if he's ready

This is pretty good if u ask me
 
Looking at that knowing you're keeping miller at center, would you trade Hayes and Holden for Matt Duchene?

Just curious
 
Kovalev27 said:
Kreider Zibanejad Zucc
Nash Miller Buchnevich
Vesey Hayes Grabner
Gropp Desharnais Fast
Puempel

Could see Nieves make it over Gropp if he's ready

This is pretty good if u ask me
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We can never say how players will play from one season to the next but solely going by last seasons play that top 9 is what makes the most sense.
 
Crease said:
Very good article.

For three days in early August, in a hotel conference room on Manhattan’s East Side, we huddled, my coaching staff and I, to take stock of our team and map out the year ahead. Over binders filled with stats and scouting reports, and between maybe a thousand video clips, we brainstormed on how to take this new version of the Rangers — with a new group of players coming in and familiar ones stepping into new roles — and make it click.

With an eye toward maximizing the talents of each player, we broke the game down to its fine points, and when we parted, we had homework assignments. Each of us drew up schemes on the style and strategy that fits us best, in all zones of the ice, skating with and without the puck, from back-checking to special teams.

When we regathered a few weeks later, we had a consensus — reacquire Tanner Glass and Dan Girardi.
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:biglaugh:

Bravo Cease, bravo.
 
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