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Speculation: Roster Building Thread Part VII: Return of Beaver Brad

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Traverse City is literally the reason those other tournament sprung up. It's by far the most well regarded. And why these rookie tournaments are held to a high standard.

This convo doesn't happen if our guys played well I'm sure of that. Let's not downgrade the tournament because our team was the worst one at it. That's bush league sore loser stuff.
 
Kovalev27 said:
Traverse City is literally the reason those other tournament sprung up. It's by far the most well regarded. And why these rookie tournaments are held to a high standard.

This convo doesn't happen if our guys played well I'm sure of that. Let's not downgrade the tournament because our team was the worst one at it. That's bush league sore loser stuff.
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My opinion has nothing to do with the Rangers play in the tournament. If you were ecstatic at the play of all the players, I'd be telling you to cool your jets because this is the beginning of the process. In essence, exactly what I'm telling you right now.

There is nothing about the quality of play in these tournaments that stands out. I have no earthly idea why you think it would. The only thing that would make that true is if the 8 teams participating had better prospect groups than any other 4 team group around the league. What does being first have to do with that?

I should back up a second. The development camp the Rangers held over the summer is the first step in the evaluative process. Traverse is the next step, but mostly a way to get prospects some action to remove the rust before stepping into the full camp with the bonafide NHLers. It allows them the chance to get into form so they can look their best when the real decisions are being made. The actual performance in the tournament matters very little. It's simply preparation.
 
Reading around, it seems like Pittsburgh could lose Tom Kuhnhackl to the waiver wire, as there are many options ahead of him on the depth chart.

I'd take a flyer. Can play center or wing on the 4th line and PK. The Rangers need that.
 
I Eat Crow said:
Reading around, it seems like Pittsburgh could lose Tom Kuhnhackl to the waiver wire, as there are many options ahead of him on the depth chart.

I'd take a flyer. Can play center or wing on the 4th line and PK. The Rangers need that.
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Sign me up for that
 
I Eat Crow said:
Reading around, it seems like Pittsburgh could lose Tom Kuhnhackl to the waiver wire, as there are many options ahead of him on the depth chart.

I'd take a flyer. Can play center or wing on the 4th line and PK. The Rangers need that.
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Yeah. I'd take that.
 
Mac n Gs said:
It's not even that I'm happy with how our kids played, I'm pretty disappointed honestly. I just think it's crazy to make these crazy statements about kids based on 4 games. This tournament doesn't completely negate Bereglazov being a top defender from the KHL, or make a kid like Danny Kristo NHL-ready. Training camp is what matter when the stakes are higher, the players are better, and jobs are literally on the line.
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You should look at the Liljegren thread in the Prospect Forum. I was astounded how much analysis they could find in 20 minutes of exhibition hockey.
 
Elliotte Freidman on Thomas Vanek:

“I think there were some other teams looking at him this summer. I know Detroit was looking at bringing him back. They have a real cap situation and they still have to sign Athanasiou. I’d heard at one point the Rangers were really interested, and I think he was interested in them, but that fell through for whatever reason."
 
People here wanted Gilmour to open in the NHL and Skjei in the AHL off of Traverse City from Gilmour and preseason from both.

Its a nothing tournament.
 
RGY said:
Based on what? He has an expiring contract and has not won a cup there. He isnt getting any younger and the franchise is in a rebuild mode. Yep you got it all figured out.
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pretty sure the sedins said recently that they aren't going anywhere...i assume they both have NMC
 
Traverse City exists for the simple reason of prospect competition evaluation.

To say that it's sample size blah blah is idiotic .

It's all about if your prospects are ready for the big game.

If they aren't ready for Traverse how are they ready for the NHL??

The NHL isn't a game of excuses people.

Either you can bring it or you can't..
 
RGY said:
Based on what? He has an expiring contract and has not won a cup there. He isnt getting any younger and the franchise is in a rebuild mode. Yep you got it all figured out.
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Based on Henrik and Daniel both saying they won't multiple times.

NYR said:
That makes him an automatic wuss :laugh:
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You were already around 40 when the war happened and remember it well, so that's understandable.
 
Machinehead said:
Based on Henrik and Daniel both saying they won't multiple times.



You were already around 40 when the war happened and remember it well, so that's understandable.
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Not to mention Linden saying the same. It weakens Benning's position in negotiations with the Sedins, you don't just say that unless you mean it.
 
Vancouver is rebuilding. We shall see if the sentiment is the same come the deadline. These guys are not 28 years old anymore.
 
NYR said:
Traverse City exists for the simple reason of prospect competition evaluation.

To say that it's sample size blah blah is idiotic .

It's all about if your prospects are ready for the big game.

If they aren't ready for Traverse how are they ready for the NHL??

The NHL isn't a game of excuses people.

Either you can bring it or you can't..
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totally agree with this.

To me, i'm FAR more likely to temper my enthusiasm for players who dominate than i am to hold back criticism on players who stink up the joint.

dominating against kids. meh.

sucking up the joint against kids...now that gets my attention.
 
Leetch3 said:
pretty sure the sedins said recently that they aren't going anywhere...i assume they both have NMC
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It's posturing. Linden and Benning are trying to maintain their value.

A lot can change in the course of 4-5 months. A Sedins/AV reunion makes a lot of sense, but I'm afraid of what the cost would be to rent them.

Hell, the Rangers may not even be in the playoff race by the time March rolls around depending on the goaltending situation and injuries, but I digress...
 
Kovalev27 said:
Why would DeAngelo start in Hartford? Kid proved he should be in the NHL last year. He's way ahead of these other kids in that sense.

Bereglazov is not some hot shot prospect ala buchnevich. This is a 23 year old undrafted stay at home dmen who handles the puck like Marc Staal. If he goes back he goes back I doubt we'd care all that much. He's not going to stay here if better players are available. They aren't going to put DeAngelo in Hartford if he plays the way he should no doubt play just to keep this guy around.

I will say I too like Kampfer no problem with him as a 7th. Although Holden has the ability to play both sides.

Listen I can't stand Holden he was horrific for us in the playoffs. But he's a better player than this Russian kid from what I've seen so far by a country mile.
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I'd be careful with D'Angelo. He was a third pair defenseman on the 2nd worst team in the league. He has potential and talent but he may need some more time in the AHL. Might not be the worst thing in the world.
 
Mats Zuccarelli said:
Elliotte Freidman on Thomas Vanek:

“I think there were some other teams looking at him this summer. I know Detroit was looking at bringing him back. They have a real cap situation and they still have to sign Athanasiou. I’d heard at one point the Rangers were really interested, and I think he was interested in them, but that fell through for whatever reason."
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Makes sense. We could certainly use another top-9 winger, and I know Vanek is good friends with Grabner and really enjoyed his short time in NY, with the Islanders.
 
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