Roster Building Thread: Part VII (2023-24)

[GAGLine]

Are we moving the 92pt player, the 50 goal scorer or the 1OA pick for Ryan Clowe?

The 92 point player. I've seen enough of the rush down the left side, curl back to avoid contact, then look for a cross ice pass that gets picked off 3 times out of 4.

 

[RGY]

I retract my comment, and yeah thats why i want no part of kane.
Because if you assume he's mvp kane, then yeah you get deep real quickly, but he hasn't been that kane in 3+ years and more importantly he'd mess with any chemistry the team develops.

He had 92 points just 2 years ago. He was never a defensively aware player. So you’re basically referencing last year that he wasn’t himself in which he had a bad hip.

 

[IDvsEGO]

He had 92 points just 2 years ago. He was never a defensively aware player. So you’re basically referencing last year that he wasn’t himself in which he had a bad hip.

He had 92 points for a team competing for the basement.
they’re empty calorie points.
Kane has historically been a great player, I haven’t seen that Kane since pre Covid

 

[Rongomania]

He had 92 points for a team competing for the basement.
they’re empty calorie points.
Kane has historically been a great player, I haven’t seen that Kane since pre Covid

Opiates Kane was pretty great those two games against the devils when we looked like the 2000's red wings, then he fell off a cliff. If he comes VERY cheap and plays 3rd line/pp2 - whateva. Other than that, get f*cked dude.

 

[leetch99]

Tkachuk already had a 30 goal season before switching. Good players can make the switch. No one is arguing that point.

We don't think Lafreniere can make the switch.

Connect the dots.

We have a skilled guy playing LW who is a RW shot and he can't even make the switch ! Switch him or Keeider and drop the puck . Go where the coaches tell you and man up . Do not make life harder for a young kid . Plus we already have KK on the RW and he is still quite green .

 

[TominNC]

The 92 point player. I've seen enough of the rush down the left side, curl back to avoid contact, then look for a cross ice pass that gets picked off 3 times out of 4.

True, But 92 pts go a long way towards ensuring a playoff spot. And replacing Panarin with Cuylle is a comical thought for anyone who knows hockey.

Who cares. Wing is wing. Players can switch sides. And they do often during play. They don't staple themselves to a wall and stay there.

Not all players randomly switch. Just like D men don't. Players learn a position and play it. SOME players can switch sides or even play center, but it's not a video game.

 

[haohmaru]

Not all players randomly switch. Just like D men don't. Players learn a position and play it. SOME players can switch sides or even play center, but it's not a video game.

It's completely different on the defensive side of things playing on your off side. It's definitely not for everyone - particularly players already weak defensively.

 

[GAGLine]

True, But 92 pts go a long way towards ensuring a playoff spot. And replacing Panarin with Cuylle is a comical thought for anyone who knows hockey.


Not all players randomly switch. Just like D men don't. Players learn a position and play it. SOME players can switch sides or even play center, but it's not a video game.

I don't think anyone was suggesting replacing Panarin with Cuylle. Certainly not me. Cuylle can be 3rd line if he earns it, but my post was more about Panarin's faults than Cuylle's chances.

Regarding switching positions, switching sides as a winger is easier than switching sides as a dman. Someone as good as Panarin shouldn't have a problem with it.

 

[TominNC]

It's completely different on the defensive side of things playing on your off side. It's definitely not for everyone - particularly players already weak defensively.

I always preferred playing RD as a lefty shot. But it’s not for everyone. These guys grow up playing their natural side and people are so quick to just say ‘switch them’, then they complain if they struggle.

Do we really want Cuylle breaking into the NHL and learning a new position?

 

[mas0764]

Wrong. In the summer of 2019, Larry Brooks identified Trouba and Fox as the Rangers #1 and #2 choice for the right side. They wanted both and they got both. I’m am certain that the front office is far more comfortable keeping both for the long haul than the armchair GMs on this forum.

Amazing that the front office could be so wrong.

 

[haohmaru]

Amazing that the front office could be so wrong.

Yeah, uh, no. Trouba is a fine 3/4 and Fox is certainly a 1A. Schneider isn't ready for either role and the depth chart fades into oblivion after that.

Trouba gets a lot of shit on here after spending the first 3 months clearly battling through something and improving from there on out. He's not a problem. His contract might be a bit high but, as has been stated ad nauseam, that contract couldn't have anticipated either Covid or the flat cap that ensued.

Phil Kessell just said he's willing to sacrifice his ironman streak to play this year.

I'd sign him for middle six RW.

What the hell?

 

[mas0764]

I think we still need some scoring depth in the middle six.

 

[IDvsEGO]

What the hell?

Our fan base screams that we're too slow, and then we make comments like that.

 

[Hischier and Hughes]

It's completely different on the defensive side of things playing on your off side. It's definitely not for everyone - particularly players already weak defensively.

i think the argument can be made that its inherently a disadvantage, defensively, being on your off-side; if only due to the positioning of your stick

its more about how well you can manage and how much of that deficiency you can gain back for yourself i feel

 

[HFsNumber1Heel]

I think we still need some scoring depth in the middle six.

The hope is that Wheeler doesn't regress to a 30-point-player and that the three kids balance out the first three lines.

The best scenario is if one of the rookies (Cullye/Othmann/Edstrom) can come up and score a dozen goals. That's asking a lot because they have to beat out one of Pitlick or Vesey.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Our fan base screams that we're too slow, and then we make comments like that.

Kessel isn't slow.

 

[nsvoyageurs]

Lafreniere (on the right) with Panarin and Trocheck/Chytil?

 

[Fitzy]

Is there any evidence that Panarin's offensive output is highly contingent on the quality of players on his line?

Seems to me that if he's going to score 90 with Zibanejad or 90 with Goodrow/Vesey , it might as well be with the latter, for line balancing purposes

 

[Bacon Artemi Bravo]

Is there any evidence that Panarin's offensive output is highly contingent on the quality of players on his line?

Seems to me that if he's going to score 90 with Zibanejad or 90 with Goodrow/Vesey , it might as well be with the latter, for line balancing purposes

Well at the very least it would be contingent on TOI. Thats unavoidable. I doubt the Rangers want to have a goody/vesey line out there as much as a Zib line.

 

[MrAlmost]

Lafreniere (on the right) with Panarin and Trocheck/Chytil?

I don't disagree with moving Laf. I do not think is is Goodrow on the other side of the 3rd line though. Come on Brooks. Thats Vesey.

Moving Laf to the RW and if he works there leaves a spot open for Othmann or Cuylle to win. I like that too since I think both can surprise this year.

 

[Machinehead]

Moving Laf to the right side isn't getting him more time at this point. He's not better than Wheeler or Kakko.

Brooks is completely senile.

"and I’m saying this as nicely as I can—have you seen Kreider play on the defensive side of the puck over the last 10 years?"

Yes, Larry. I've seen it. He's one of the best defensive wingers in the league.

Dude writes a whole ass novel on where Kreider should go. Anywhere???

"The third line is not going to make sense if the Rangers are going to pay Chytil $4.435.7 million to play between, say, Goodrow and Blake Wheeler."

He's very clearly the 3C. We knew that when we offered him that contract, Larry.

 

[cwede]

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[Machinehead]

Kessel isn't slow.

No, but he's over 30 which is tantamount to killing Jesus on the Rangers board.

 

[mas0764]

Lafreniere (on the right) with Panarin and Trocheck/Chytil?

Larry is foolishly old school as ever.

Oh no, can't pay a $5m player to play on the third line. Developing depth is a bad thing! It's a demotion! Not the sign of a good team.

 

[Machinehead]

Larry is foolishly old school as ever.

Oh no, can't pay a $5m player to play on the third line. Developing depth is a bad thing! It's a demotion! Not the sign of a good team.

"Can't have this guy on the third line in a list format because he doesn't do what I have determined to be third line things" is always my favorite discourse.