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Schneider is like 70 something
Cuylle is line 120 something
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Perreault is like 50 something
Schneider is like 70 something
Cuylle is line 120 something
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It’s not now, but it’s really not out of the realm if in 6 months he’s the better player.
So if Hellebuyck doesn't sign an extension with Winnipeg do the Jets rebuild?
Scheifele is also a UFA and I can see him leaving. Nino, Dillon, Demelo UFAs. The following year some other key guys. Big trade this offseason, how do those guys fit in? If the season goes bad the trade deadline could be interesting. Rangers have a trade history......
So if the Rangers can find a taker for Goody, how do they not call about Morrissey? Perfect parter for Trouba in my opinion. KAM up with Fox. Rangers top 4 among the best in the league. Plenty of forward prospects to fill holes.
Cost would be significant but Lindgren could be a starting point and obviously some picks and/or prospects.
All starts with Helly but from the looks of it, it sounds like he isn't signing. Going to be interesting.....
Scheifele is also a UFA and I can see him leaving. Nino, Dillon, Demelo UFAs. The following year some other key guys. Big trade this offseason, how do those guys fit in? If the season goes bad the trade deadline could be interesting. Rangers have a trade history......
So if the Rangers can find a taker for Goody, how do they not call about Morrissey? Perfect parter for Trouba in my opinion. KAM up with Fox. Rangers top 4 among the best in the league. Plenty of forward prospects to fill holes.
Cost would be significant but Lindgren could be a starting point and obviously some picks and/or prospects.
All starts with Helly but from the looks of it, it sounds like he isn't signing. Going to be interesting.....
Would you move Chytil to add another dman?
Even if they find a taker for Goodrow, most likely Rangers would need to pay and or retain some of the cap hit. Morrissey cap hit is 6,.25 per year until 27-28 season. It’s not like the Rangers have someone like Bryce McConnell Barker ready to replace Chytil. They will just overpay another 3rd liner to replace Chytil or play someone not ready for 3rd liner like Brodzinksi or someone like Bonino
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I think Kakko and Chytil are going to have big breakouts this year. Both guys got bigger last year and with a new coaching staff there is new opportunity. I don't care so much about point totals, just make an impact every night. With health both guys will easily score 50-60 points. As for Lafreniere, it's time to show us something.
In fairness 40 pts on a 3rd line with no PP time is good it’s just not 1st overall good
The guy needs more ice
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How much ice time does he need?
He played more than Kreider at even strength. Zibanejad played just 11 more minutes than Lafreniere at even strength despite playing an extra game.
Lafreniere is closer to being utilized as a 1st liner than a 3rd liner.
The gap in overall ice time versus his peers can be accounted for partially because he's on PP2 and mostly because he doesn't kill penalties.
For example, Barclay Goodrow played 146 minutes on the penalty kill. Lafreniere played 2. 144 minutes, averaging 15 minutes a game, is like playing 9 extra games.
I don't think anybody is concerned about Laf being on the PK or expecting him to score shorthanded goals. As far as getting offensive opportunities, we can't really give him any more ice time than he's had.
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Just to piggyback a bit, maybe getting him on the PK is something we should explore just as a means to get him into another situation he can try and build confidence from, maybe something clicks for him with the added responsibility, would also help us get guys like Kreider and Mika an extra bit of rest here and there which is something I wish we could find a way to do with Fox as well
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Can try, but I'm not seeing it. PKers need to make lots of starts and stops and pivots. The only quick cuts Laf makes are around the deli meat slicer.
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Haha my thinking was maybe it helps him focus on some of his deficiencies like stopping and starting, awareness, positioning, staying engaged etc but maybe you’re right and he’d just end up like Mickey Rourke in The Wrestler, maybe in more ways than one haha
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Sometimes that's a learned skill and also I think that the 'starts and stops' thing is more lower level hockey instilled. A good player with good instincts can circle and still accomplish the same thing. It's all about positioning
I get it but he needs top PP time
That’s how almost all the top scorers get their pts up. Look at Panarin.
Will Kakko get a shot at 1RW or 2RW? There's really just him and Wheeler as obvious RW:s for the top 6 currently. At the same time I can see them wanting to keep the kids line as a great third line.
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There's absolutely no basis, based on merit, for an NHL coach to put him on PP1 given what he's produced in the minutes he's received.
I've gone on about the numbers ad nauseam, but suffice to say he's the worst regularly-played powerplay producer in the NHL.
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He doesn't need more ice time. He needs to score more with the current ice time he has.
He ranks 10th in his draft class in 5v5 P/60. That's not good enough.
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Laf also scored more than Kreider at EV. Kreider scored 33 EV points, Laf scored 35 EV points. Where are you going with that? How many 21 year olds do you see on the PK? Not a lot, and maybe it will never be something Laf is good at, or maybe when he's a veteran, hell be adept at it...
The bottom line is that we will not know what the kids can REALLY do till they get more opportunity (which does not just mean more minutes) and responsibility. Especially PP time. 30 second PP shifts mostly starting outside the O zone tells us ZERO about what these kids have in the way of PP prowess.
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Lafreniere is very adept at even strength scoring and I've never said otherwise. My issue is the notion that he's doing it in third line minutes. He's not. He doesn't play third line minutes.
If that's what he is at 21, and you were getting some PP production out of him, that wouldn't be so bad.
Therein lies the problem. I'm all for Kakko getting an extended look on PP1. I think he's at least earned a look. You simply can't justify, as a coach, putting Lafreniere on PP1 right now. It's a fireable offense.
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Scoring is about more than goals though. Otherwise Brandon Pirri would have been a star in this league.
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Honestly I'm not necessarily talking about PP1, but there's no reason PP1 and PP2 cant be more balanced in both personell and more importantly TIME. Want to see what they can do on the PP? Give them PP shifts closer to a minute. Split the time more evenly between two units. As someone said above: start whichever unit is fresher. The bonus is if one goes cold at an inopportune time, such as the playoffs, hopefully the other can pick up the slack.
13 goals, 22 assists at EV last year. I'm not sure what you are saying.
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