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FWIW, I heard from a little birdie that Jay O'Brien will sign with either the Rangers, Bruins or Panthers.
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NYR Viper
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Who is this birdie and are they reliable
haohmaru
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A young center prospect would be nice. For once.
LiveLongandProspal
NY Rangers = America's Team
Same birdie who told me about other breaking stories which I posted here, but also got a couple of things wrong (most recently, that James van Riemsdyk would sign here a couple of years back)
Isn’t O’Brien the one that even the flyers are choosing not to sign? Like we have no center depth in hfd, they have no center depth at all.
NYR Viper
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O'Brien appears to be a pretty physical 23 year old center. I don't see top-6 upside, but maybe 4th liner if he develops properly?
Something to note is that the Flyers chose not to sign him but they get a compensatory pick I believe. So if someone signs him, they get 2nd I believe?
Something to note is that the Flyers chose not to sign him but they get a compensatory pick I believe. So if someone signs him, they get 2nd I believe?
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No. There's no compensation from the team that signs him. Philly gets a 2nd in 2024 because they didn't sign him. It's just an extra pick awarded by the NHL.
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This is what I recalled, just worded it improperly.
People saying the Flyers didn't sign O'Brien and therefore were walking away from the asset. That's not accurate as they chose a 2nd in 2024 in lieu of O'Brien. Some teams could value him as a 3rd or later and the Flyers may as well.
So it’s a 22 year old who’s not worth a 2nd round pick. Seems like a long shot.
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Yeah of course. Based on his stats, I would say 3rd or 4th rounder is likely his value. Probably less than 10% shot of being an everyday NHLer. In saying that, the Rangers could use another 4th rounder and if he will sign, the team could use a center prospect.
IT'S THAT TIME. 5 PM BECOMES COLLEGE FREE AGENT DAYM RANGERS PLEASE SIGN SOME CENTER AND RW DEPTH
Intrigued by Farinacci, Wise and O'Brien
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NYR Viper
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It would be nice to get one of those guys. The Rangers need a center, even if it's just someone who can develop to be a 3rd/4th liner...
HockeyBasedNYC
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Said the same thing about Hayes & Vesey (and to a lesser extent Gilroy) before they signed here too. Never know
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He's unspectacular in every way in the few games I've seen, but it's possible that developing under Jay Pandolfo will lead to better than expected defensive awareness at the pro level.
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NYR Viper
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If we try to keep things in perspective a bit:
Jay O'Brien's stats the last 3 years
16 points in 16 games
22 points in 24 games (4th in points but 1st in points per game played)
32 points in 39 games (3rd in points on the team)
If the Rangers had selected O'Brien with a later pick, say 4th round, these would be pretty solid numbers.
Again, I'm not saying he turns into something but I think some of his numbers appear worse than they are, mainly because he has missed some time.
Jay O'Brien's stats the last 3 years
16 points in 16 games
22 points in 24 games (4th in points but 1st in points per game played)
32 points in 39 games (3rd in points on the team)
If the Rangers had selected O'Brien with a later pick, say 4th round, these would be pretty solid numbers.
Again, I'm not saying he turns into something but I think some of his numbers appear worse than they are, mainly because he has missed some time.
NYR Viper
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I think it's high. If I was a young player I would like my odds as a center with their current depth
I wonder who besides the obvious the Rangers will target. I wonder if they sign someone out of the blue like a dman or a goalie like they did with Georgiev as EUFA (UFA from Europe)
All in the right context. As a 23 year old who was drafted in the first for his offensive game, his college numbers aren't particularly exciting... like you said previously, for a guy who could maybe fill out as a bottom 6 option, it's fine. For someone his age, I wasn't overly impressed with him watching BU this year. Honestly, the 19 year old Greene should've been their top center all year. But, like all of these sorts of prospects who have a limited ceiling and no particular standout trait, it really becomes how responsible are you, can you chip in some offense here and there, can you kill penalties, etc...
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Robert Mastrosimone played a large portion of his youth hockey with the Long Island Royals. He also played high school hockey for one season as a 7th grader. He routinely scored about 7 goals a game at the freshman level. I know because I reffed his games often.
It’s crazy evidence of just how impossible the draft is. The guy was the 54th overall pick and now less than 4 years later he looks to be potentially without a contract. Wild!
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