Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part LXXVI - On the Brink of Wasteland

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-He was definitely suspended in juniors for homophobic abuse and the Venn diagram of homophobes and racists is a circle.
I have come across a number of people who are bigoted against LGBTQ people but not against PoC. I have also come across a number of people who are very supportive of LGBTQ community but who are racist as f***.

Ignorance doesnt follow rules and often does not make sense.
 
Herman and his blog are a joke. But at least we got a second hand statement from Miller’s agent as a result of Herman’s fairytale going viral. Still think Herman should be banned as a news source here but not a hill worth dying on.
Imagine Miller saying to Herman’s face it didn’t happen and Herman being like nah it did :laugh:
 
No, you're not doing that.

Me: "this one player who keeps coming up has been accused several times of abusing teammates and opponents."

You: "WOW so anybody who's ever said a bad word or told a joke is racist, got it!"
No.

You litereally said. "homophobic abuse and the Venn diagram of homophobes and racists is a circle."

I used YOUR logic and see if it was constant. Or if you were just talking out of your ass

The rest of your post is 'rumors' that I didnt find and tweets I didn't find.

I am not the one making accusations.
 
I have come across a number of people who are bigoted against LGBTQ people but not against PoC. I have also come across a number of people who are very supportive of LGBTQ community but who are racist as f***.

Ignorance doesnt follow rules and often does not make sense.
There are exceptions, yes, but I think bigotry is common thread more often than not.

I just love people falling over themselves to point out that he was suspended for homophobia as if that's supposed to make me think he'd never be racist. It does the opposite.
 
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I'm not one to just blame everything on a coach, my criticisms of DQ has been consistent since the beginning. But circling back, I dont believe this event occurs if TDA doesnt get yoyo-ed from the lineup. After a game that pairing had, gotta figure he snapped on Georgi knowing damn well in the back of his mind he'd be getting scratched again. Im not absolving TDA for what he did, but to me this is just another addition to a long list of subsequent consequences of DQs choices and how it effects individual players

I mean this is kinda lame reasoning because it's saying that a coach should/could never try to hold a player accountable for anything because if the players acts like a child about it then there might have to be MORE consequences.
 
Indeed.

(Also, not for nothing, but if people really do want to litigate the whole puck thing, a) you’ll note that the agent’s statement is about where the puck is now and makes no mention of the events that night, and b) if it did happen and I were the 21-y-o, rookie minority in a 95% white sport 8 games into my pro career, I’d certainly want my agent to deny the heck out of the story, regardless.

Again, minor point. I’m not necessarily inclined to believe Herman, and frankly the veracity of a single incident that was only one of a string that culminated in something far worse, doesn’t really matter. But Wysh’s tweet doesn’t conclusively cinch the matter, IMO.)

"A source close to the Rangers indicated that while DeAngelo was seen collecting the puck from the Sabres’ net, he immediately handed it to the training staff and that the puck is due to be sent out for framing this week."

There's no legs for this puck story at all.
 
No.

You litereally said. "homophobic abuse and the Venn diagram of homophobes and racists is a circle."

I used YOUR logic and see if it was constant. Or if you were just talking out of your ass

The rest of your post is 'rumors' that I didnt find and tweets I didn't find.
I said "homophobic abuse." You said "Kevin Hart used a slur once."

This is why the poor man needed a drink, you gave him a migraine and you're giving me one.
 
There are exceptions, yes, but I think bigotry is common thread more often than not.

I just love people falling over themselves to point out that he was suspended for homophobia as if that's supposed to make me think he'd never be racist. It does the opposite.
I'll agree it demonstrates the tendency to be a bigot.
 
I said "homophobic abuse." You said "Kevin Hart used a slur once."

This is why the poor man needed a drink, you gave him a migraine and you're giving me one.
This is also why I want ADA gone. This place is a lot better without him. Why can’t we just go back to complaining about Kreider being a elite player/ non elite player

Or what type of gum AV is chewing
 
what am I walking back?

you posted a bunch of mental gymnastics to say ADA is probably racist. I saw none of your evidence besides what he did in juniors. So, I'm not the one that needs to walk back anything

Not to go into details about that whole thing that happened in juniors, but it was a derogatory term, not a racial slur. Yes, it's still bad but all his teammates at that time were white. Hard to use racial slurs against people with the same skin color.

Still wrong. Just to be clear.
 
I really don’t understand people saying they’ll wait for the facts before they judge. Judge what? They put a $10m, 55 pt d-man on f***ing waivers.
They didn’t do that for fun.

It doesn’t matter if you think it’s fair. Even if stories come out, it will incomplete, without full context. Especially when it comes to something like being a problem to the chemistry and locker room. You could sit there and sat “oh that’s not a big deal, that’s overblown” but it doesn’t matter a bit.

I really don’t know how else to say this other than this is a rare occasion where there isn’t much debate. They decided he was such an issue he had to be gone. You don’t get to be the judge of whether what he did rises to the level of waivers.
 
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