Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part LXXVI - On the Brink of Wasteland

[Alluckks]

Why not both???

Deangelo is a shithead and cost this team. He clearly never grew up.

Bad faith journalism is shitty and shares some of the culpability for the public’s increasing mistrust of media in general.

Pin this to the top, delete every other post, and let's talk hockey again please baby jesus

 

[Ruggs225]

Imagine being bad at your job and still being able to keep it lol.

Jack Johnson

 

[redwhiteandblue]

Loldam Hermlol

 

[RGY]

Goodnight all. Gona kick back and enjoy a drink while the snow comes down. We’ll see what happens at Noon tomorrow.

 

[Richard Banger]

I for one will be happy when ADA is gone because he has been jack Johnson level bad at defense.

and we won’t have to continue this dumbass tip toe around politics and get to go back to hockey talk.

 

[Barnaby]

"In order to maintain a tolerant society, society must be intolerant of intolerance."

If a viewpoint is inherently intolerant of others, it should not be tolerated. That's the logic. You can't (and shouldn't) be 100% inclusive of everyone and everything.

Of course, the question becomes who decides what is tolerant and what is intolerant. Most things out there these days will prove intolerant to some faction or other. Is it mob rule? An elected official?

Something might be tolerant in one nation but intolerant somewhere else.

I’ll leave it there, but I think it’s a valid question.

 

[Machinehead]

Why not both???

Deangelo is a shithead and cost this team. He clearly never grew up.

Bad faith journalism is shitty and shares some of the culpability for the public’s increasing mistrust of media in general.

Yeah I would have given him the benefit of the doubt if he just took ribbing as something more sinister, but I'm kinda cheesed at Herman if it turns out he fabricated this.

For those of us who are trying to convince others that hockey has serious issues with abuse and that we can and should be better, Herman is doing exactly the kind of thing that people fight back on.

 

[bl02]

As the great Marvin Gaye said believe half of what you see and none of what you hear

 

[Alluckks]

My suggestion to Mr. Herman is to stand way behind his story. Leave plenty of room.

People like Herman will never walk anything back, have any grace, or leave room

He loves that he has built his persona on grandstanding, holding his line (because he is righteous or something), and lambasting others

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

Last thing I’ll say on this tonight is I hope for the Rangers and more importantly K’Andre’s sake that Herman just dramatized things

The whole puck situation is odd and frankly the Wyhsynski tweets dosen’t clear much up for me lol

 

[duhmetreE]

-It's been rumored since he's in junior hockey that he racially abuses other players.

-He was definitely suspended in juniors for homophobic abuse and the Venn diagram of homophobes and racists is a circle.

-There are deleted tweets of his father using the N-word and I'll just let you look that up because I'm not posting it here.

-His sister's deleted tweets surfaced today and she couldn't write a single tweet that didn't have a racial slur in it.

-His father is on video (and it's been posted multiple times today) saying that they use slurs "every day" where they're from.

I'm 29 years old. I've been watching the Rangers my entire life. I have had this discussion about one player. That player is Tony DeAngelo. All I read all day is about "oh cancel culture, and nobody gets an opinion, and they're coming for everyone" and yet, it's one player. And it's that player again, and again, and again. And you expect me to believe that it keeps coming up because everyone is just out to victimize this one player because he shares political views that 50% of the country holds?

And before you say "that's not evidence" I got news for you: this ain't court, and we ain't stupid.

If it walks like a duck, it's a f***ing duck. You wanna talk about "let's communicate" and "don't cancel people" and "listen to other people," then the least you can do to open the lines of communication is f***ing admit when it's happening.

I can't find any of that evidence besides the video of his dad.

but your logic that if you use a gay slur, the context being that the guy is not gay, make you a racist... is interesting. Kevin Hart used a gay slur a long time ago.. is he a racist?

I cannot find any of the tweets you're talking about. Didn't even know he had a sister.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

Hilarious that whether or not Herman’s claim about a specific incident (from days ago) is one of the many stones in the path that eventually led the team to literally cut bait on a guy who should otherwise be a building block player is now somehow the story. So typical of how these conversations go.

Oh gee, the 6th of the 13 incidents (the last of which was indisputably a physical alteration) was mischaracterized/mistaken! Tony’s off the hook now! Don’t you all who’ve been talking badly about him now feel stupid?

C’mon...

 

[Kendo]

I was sort of hoping it was Panarin because I have this image of him off ice as a vodka swilling wild card skinny wild man and the idea of DeAngelo blowing up on AG and Panarin just clocking him fit my personal narrative and made me giggle.

I want it to be American Buch.

 

[Machinehead]

I can't find any of that evidence besides the video of his dad.

but your logic that if you use a gay slur, the context being that the guy is not gay, make you a racist... is interesting. Kevin Hart used a gay slur a long time ago.. is he a racist?

I cannot find any of the tweets you're talking about. Didn't even know he had a sister.

Like I said earlier, all you have to do is walk it back. We've all said bad things.

You choose to double down.

 

[Lion Hound]

Lol

Figures...Instantly loses all credibility for posting with an agenda.


At this point of Miller himself posted that it never happened he still wouldn’t admit it.

 

[Richard Banger]

I can't find any of that evidence besides the video of his dad.

but your logic that if you use a gay slur, the context being that the guy is not gay, make you a racist... is interesting. Kevin Hart used a gay slur a long time ago.. is he a racist?

I cannot find any of the tweets you're talking about. Didn't even know he had a sister.

Lmao this post is shit.

as a black man when I see this kind of shit I just shake my head and pour myself a drink.

 

[nyr2k2]

Of course, the question becomes who decides what is tolerant and what is intolerant. Most things out there these days will prove intolerant to some faction or other. Is it mob rule? An elected official?

Something might be tolerant in one nation but intolerant somewhere else.

I’ll leave it there, but I think it’s a valid question.

For sure. Didn't mean that quote as a "mic drop" or anything. It's just a paradox to help explain why being inclusive doesn't actually have to mean including everyone/everything.

 

[Alluckks]

Hilarious that whether or not Herman’s claim about a specific incident (from days ago) is one of the many stones in the path that eventually led the team to literally cut bait on a guy who should otherwise be a building block player is now somehow the story. So typical of how these conversations go.

Oh gee, the 6th of the 13 incidents (the last of which was indisputably a physical alteration) was mischaracterized/mistaken! Tony’s off the hook now! Don’t you all who’ve been talking badly about him now feel stupid?

C’mon...

I don't think anyone said he is off the hook (maybe they did and I have them on ignore already, which should tell you enough)

But it does ease some concern about the Rangers mishandling a racism situation

Deangelo is out and damned, rightfully so. The dude f***ed it.

 

[duhmetreE]

Lmao this post is shit.

as a black man when I see this kind of shit I just shake my head and pour myself a drink.

how? I'm asking questions and trying to make sense of his logic.

 

[Kendo]

This chick has got me in stitches watching this 8 times through!

 

[Fvital92]

Herman better be right. I would't want a millionaire suing me in the US.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

Herman better be right. I would't want a millionaire suing me in the US.

It's already been proven that he wasn't.

 

[duhmetreE]

Like I said earlier, all you have to do is walk it back. We've all said bad things.

You choose to double down.

what am I walking back?

you posted a bunch of mental gymnastics to say ADA is probably racist. I saw none of your evidence besides what he did in juniors. So, I'm not the one that needs to walk back anything

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

I like how people are more outraged about Puckgate being apparent 'fake news' than Miller's camp not denying there was mistreatment by DeAngelo.

Indeed.

(Also, not for nothing, but if people really do want to litigate the whole puck thing, a) you’ll note that the agent’s statement is about where the puck is now and makes no mention of the events that night, and b) if it did happen and I were the 21-y-o, rookie minority in a 95% white sport 8 games into my pro career, I’d certainly want my agent to deny the heck out of the story, regardless.

Again, minor point. I’m not necessarily inclined to believe Herman, and frankly the veracity of a single incident that was only one of a string that culminated in something far worse doesn’t really matter. But Wysh’s tweet doesn’t conclusively cinch the matter, IMO.)

 

[Machinehead]

how? I'm asking questions and trying to make sense of his logic.

No, you're not doing that.

Me: "this one player who keeps coming up has been accused several times of abusing teammates and opponents."

You: "WOW so anybody who's ever said a bad word or told a joke is racist, got it!"