Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part LXVII

[LaffyTaffy]

I wasn't a fan of our approach to Andersson the last year, and I still think there's a good NHL potential lurking in there.

But having said that, this kid has managed to get on the wrong side of some people who are genuinely hard to piss off and his reactions border on narcissistic at best, and almost sociopathic at worst.

Seems like a quiet day at the office today eh?

 

[n8]

Panarin - Zib - Kakko
Kreider - Jumbo - Buch
Laf - Strome - Chytil
Lemieux - Howden - Gauthier

Chara - DeAngelo
Lindgren - Fox
Miller - Trouba

Jumbo is not a 2nd line center anymore. He slows the game down and controls the play. I'm not sure how that mixes with high speed Kreider. I'd love if we could get us a center who can PK as well. Stat wise in PPGA/60, Strome was actually our best forward. Scary.

 

[n8]

I wasn't a fan of our approach to Andersson the last year, and I still think there's a good NHL potential lurking in there.

But having said that, this kid has managed to get on the wrong side of some people who are genuinely hard to piss off and his reactions border on narcissistic at best, and almost sociopathic at worst.

Throwing your silver medal is now official diagnosis for bad character traits.

 

[rangers1314]

I wasn't a fan of our approach to Andersson the last year, and I still think there's a good NHL potential lurking in there.

But having said that, this kid has managed to get on the wrong side of some people who are genuinely hard to piss off and his reactions border on narcissistic at best, and almost sociopathic at worst.

Boy one of these days I hope we get the straight dope on this.

 

[rangers1314]

Elliotte mentions on 31T that there are heavy rumors STL may file tampering charges on Vegas.

 

[Levitate]

Boy one of these days I hope we get the straight dope on this.

Same
Could be wrong but sounds like he pissed off JD as well?

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

Elliotte mentions on 31T that there are heavy rumors STL may file tampering charges on Vegas.

Yeah it's obvious something was going on there. I believe the whole "fly him out and show him around" was a very public dog and pony show to try and make it seem like nothing fishy had happened

 

[Levitate]

what were the hints that there was tampering?

 

[Lone Ranger]

Wishing him success, but I'm more comfortable with my barber being named Phillip Di Giuseppe than my team's fourth line winger

 

[rangers1314]

Elliotte also mentions players in Vegas aren't happy being mentioned in trade rumors, "bent out of shape" is the term he used.

Mentions Fleury (obviously), Patches, Marchessault, Alec Martinez and Tuch.

Also mentions how they fired Gallent when they had a verbal agreement on an extension. Says vegas is getting a reputation for themselves.

 

[Levitate]

Elliotte mentions on 31T that there are heavy rumors STL may file tampering charges on Vegas.

this on his podcast? haven't been able to find written info on it

 

[BKGooner]

Can we just chant Lisa whenever he's back for like the entire game? What a entitled little ****.

Throw fake silver medals on the ice the way Lindros got pelted with pacifiers.

 

[rangers1314]

A few other nuggets from 31T:

- Says Vegas was in on Hall. Says he believes the offer was 1/5.
- Says Tampa has gone to Stamkos to see if he would waive his NTC. Says Vegas also investigated that as well.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

I wasn't a fan of our approach to Andersson the last year, and I still think there's a good NHL potential lurking in there.

But having said that, this kid has managed to get on the wrong side of some people who are genuinely hard to piss off and his reactions border on narcissistic at best, and almost sociopathic at worst.

No I was told it’s because Quinn loves Howden. It has nothing to do with Lias’ horrendous attitude.

 

[rangers1314]

this on his podcast? haven't been able to find written info on it

Yes, the podcast.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

A few other nuggets from 31T:

- Says Vegas was in on Hall. Says he believes the offer was 1/5.
- Says Tampa has gone to Stamkos to see if he would waive his NTC. Says Vegas also investigated that as well.

lmfao they really do be living up to their city’s stereotype though

 

[eco's bones]

For all those thinking Howden got special treatment---the way I look at is that Howden outworked and outhustled Lias at almost every turn. Howden has also shown a greater willingness to do the unappreciated jobs necessary to make a team successful.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

For all those thinking Howden got special treatment---the way I look at is that Howden outworked and outhustled Lias at almost every turn. Howden has also shown a greater willingness to do the unappreciated jobs necessary to make a team successful.

He might not be very good but I definitely understand why Howden was playing over Lias, especially since all thts come out about his toxic attitude

 

[eco's bones]

He might not be very good but I definitely understand why Howden was playing over Lias, especially since all thts come out about his toxic attitude

IMO Howden could have used some time in Hartford---the Rangers were so short on NHL level players that guys who weren't ready got thrown in at the deep end. I don't think Howden is physically mature quite yet and I don't think a lot of the heat he's taken is quite fair. Making that jump from the CHL straight to the NHL is skipping an entire stage of development and I expect he will get better as he gets older and stronger.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

IMO Howden could have used some time in Hartford---the Rangers were so short on NHL level players that guys who weren't ready got thrown in at the deep end. I don't think Howden is physically mature quite yet and I don't think a lot of the heat he's taken is quite fair. Making that jump from the CHL straight to the NHL is skipping an entire stage of development and I expect he will get better as he gets older and stronger.

I completely agree, I think we rushed Howden a bit. I think we forget tht his first camp, he looked REALLY good, and in the first 15-20 games he was playing very good hockey. In retrospect I think we should have sent him back to Hartford at about the midway point of his rookie year, because his game fell off a cliff by that point. He clearly looked tired and overmatched.

 

[Thirty One]

PDG's deal is two-way per Brooksie.

 

[Gluten Free Breadman]

A 3rd, Schmidt and Stasny for Pietrangelo. Not sure I make that deal.

But its Stastny and Schmidt for Pietrangelo and a 3rd.

 

[Leetch3]

PDG's deal is two-way per Brooksie.

250k in the AHL..so thats a high AHL salary if he does get sent down

 

[BobMarleyNYR]

Jumbo is not a 2nd line center anymore. He slows the game down and controls the play. I'm not sure how that mixes with high speed Kreider. I'd love if we could get us a center who can PK as well. Stat wise in PPGA/60, Strome was actually our best forward. Scary.

He DID that all his career until like 3-4 years ago.

 

[egelband]

JD and JG already said they did not want to commit to 3 years even for 2 million. They will probably need every dollar to sign some important players at that time especially if the cap is still flat. It is what it is.

I assume they would have made a more-competitive offer had it not been for Covid. At least I’d like to believe that. Because if not, they really should have traded him at the TDL.

This situation is really my only quibble with the FO.