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Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part LVIII
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TheBloodyNine
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I think an Eichel trade is a roster player (ADA), young roster player who is a center (Chytl), top prospect not named Kak or Laf (Kravtsov, Miller, Nils) and at least two firsts (22 + 2021 unprotected), maybe even a conditional first in 22 depending on what the Rangers do (win 2 rounds = converted). I'm probably off but I think that's a ton to give up.
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TheBloodyNine
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Yeah I don't think it's gonna happen...yet. Next year after another season of losing for Eichel? It becomes more reasonable.
Thirty One
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Just ordered three Eichel jerseys. #90, #15 and #16. Hopefully I'm right on one.
for me, I realize you have to give to get but including zibanejad makes zero sense. if you swapped mika for eichel...they are basically a wash offensively and mika is better defensively. so at best its a wash, possibly you downgraded the 1c for almost double the cap hit and still have no 2c.
the entire point of making the deal would be to have zibanejad & eichel as the 1-2 punch down the middle for 2 seasons until its time for mika to get a raise...then you deal mika at that point rather than giving him 7-8 years at 29 with eichel remaining as the 1C.
imo the price will be to high...but if the deal doesn't result in both those C together for the next 2 years then what is the point?
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That is frankly way more what the likely haul is from any team - simply because our prospect pool is overwhelming doesn't mean we'd give it all away.
That package beats what most teams could offer for Eichel without gutting themselves.
I mean, that package (Strome, DeAngelo, Chytil and 22) is vastly better than what it cost for Nash (Dubinsky, Anisimov, Erixon and a first). I think every component in this hypothetical Eichel package is way better.
As I said earlier, I personally think Zib gives you just as good of a chance to win. He may not be as elite offensively, but his all around game makes up for it. This is really only interesting to me if it results in a 1-2 of Zib/Eichel, otherwise it’s just shuffling the chairs.
I don’t know that we’re in a position to make this work. Even if you’re sending Smith the other way, the Kreider contract really inhibits a move like this. You can’t pay Panarin, Eichel, Trouba, Kreider, Zibanejad and then pay Fox, Kakko, Shesty and Laf their raises. Losing Zib doesn’t make sense as you end up in the same situation we’re in now. Sure Eichel is younger and flashier, but you still are shallow at C with one elite player.
Unless Kreider or Trouba were part of it (which I can’t see), I don’t see it really helping us long term. Eichel is just a sexy name. We’d be in the same position.
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You try to share with people because it's what they ask for. And more often than not, you get kicked in the balls for it. It's not always a fun experience.
People on social media message boards - "Share what you're hearing, we want to know!"
Response - "Okay, [Insert Team] has discussed [Player] with other team. They're also talking to [Team], [Team] and [Team] about some potential moves."
People on social media and message boards - "What? That's bullshit! Why would you say that? That doesn't make sense! It's stupid! I wouldn't do that! You're full of shit!"
And then people wonder why reporters and others keep shit to themselves and set up private chats.
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JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK
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Just look at any Friedman thread on the main boards. Half the thread is Neanderthals calling him a liar.You try to share with people because it's what they ask for. And more often than not, you kicked in the balls for it. It's not always a fun experience.
People on social media message boards - "Share what you're hearing, we want to know!"
Response - "Okay, [Insert Team] has discussed [Player] with other team. They're also looking to [Team], [Team] and [Team] about some potential moves."
People on social media and message boards - "What? That's bullshit! Why would you say that? That doesn't make sense! It's stupid! I wouldn't do that! You're full of shit!"
And then people wonder why reporters and others keep shit to themselves and set up private chats.
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If you're Buffalo, would you honestly take that package for Eichel? I wouldn't. This doesn't make them a better team, now or in the future.
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Edge
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Look, you guys ask for stuff on here and I share what I can, when I can, without completely blowing my access to info.
Sometimes it's not what everyone wants to hear, or what they agree with. I can live with that.
But to your point, it does get annoying when people want to fight you over the information like it's your decision, or question the legitmacy of things after you've given them the heads up on a notebook's worth of happenings over the years.
It honestly makes you not want to do it. And I'm not even out there using my real name to share this stuff. Even then, you'd be surprised the emails these guys receive.
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You try to share with people because it's what they ask for. And more often than not, you get kicked in the balls for it. It's not always a fun experience.
People on social media message boards - "Share what you're hearing, we want to know!"
Response - "Okay, [Insert Team] has discussed [Player] with other team. They're also talking to [Team], [Team] and [Team] about some potential moves."
People on social media and message boards - "What? That's bullshit! Why would you say that? That doesn't make sense! It's stupid! I wouldn't do that! You're full of shit!"
And then people wonder why reporters and others keep shit to themselves and set up private chats.
Perhaps he could have worded that far differently. He could've just kept it as:
"From what I've heard, Eichel doesn't want to leave and Buffalo doesn't want to trade him, though teams have inquired about him."
Same message, far less cryptic and ominous.
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TheBloodyNine
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That's what was said about Rick Nash, until he was traded for spare parts.
Edge
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Georgiev is the one they've asked about multiple times.
SA16
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Bob is pretty much retired. I don't think he needs to post things for clicks or because people asked him about it. He also usually takes this entire time of year off for vacation.
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