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Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part LVII

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Oscar Lindberg said:
Ya'll are killing me about Strome, I don't have the energy for this today

Not that it matters because Gorton will either dump him at the draft or give him a year and dump him at the deadline, so the conversation is moot

In other news, apparently Jimmy Hayes said on some podcast somewhere that Ottawa offered Tkachuk and 3OA for Lafreniere
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Since when is Jimmy Hayes plugged in on something like that?
 
SingnBluesOnBroadway said:
And, as much as you long to dismiss it, Panarin was never a Hart finalist before playing with Strome.
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Oscar Lindberg said:
Ya'll are killing me about Strome, I don't have the energy for this today

Not that it matters because Gorton will either dump him at the draft or give him a year and dump him at the deadline, so the conversation is moot

In other news, apparently Jimmy Hayes said on some podcast somewhere that Ottawa offered Tkachuk and 3OA for Lafreniere
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Say what?
 
SingnBluesOnBroadway said:
I'm glad that you enjoyed the laugh. It's important to laugh these days.

Whether or not you want to admit it, as easily as you want to to dismiss it, there is chemistry between to the two. Now, you can easily say "hell, anyone can play with Panarin and be productive." But that's not true. We've seen it time and again in this league that that's not the case. Look now further than what saw it here with Jagr after Nylander and Straka left.
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There is chemistry between Buchnevich & Kreider/Zibanejad, but people are climbing all over themselves to trade him. And Buchnevich is a significantly better NHL player than Strome.
 
SingnBluesOnBroadway said:
I don't care what he was before he got here. He was productive without Panarin here. What was Zibanejad before he got here?

And, as much as you long to dismiss it, Panarin was never a Hart finalist before playing with Strome.
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I mean, if Panarin's the product of anyone, I think our 'playoff' showing proved who that would be.

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bobbop said:
I’d be happy with Strome on a two year deal. Worst case, he gets exposed to Seattle. Best case he produces at a relative bargain rate. The long term decision whether to sign or keep him gets kicked down the road a year. I sincerely doubt he would sign a two year contract though.

Strome at 4 years only makes sense if you see him as a centerpiece of a Stanley Cup contending team. I’m not ready to sign up for that.
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Unless you're getting into the $5.5m+ per year range at a 4 year contract I can't see him being viewed as a centerpiece. Anything less than that feels like "secondary piece" kind of money. Even if it's slightly inflated.
 
Raspewtin said:
11 forwards is a better option than Smith at forward. No question. Smith should not spend another minute at the NHL level at forward. He was that bad.
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That's the point though. It would be 11 forwards and Smith. He would fill in for a game where a callup might not be able to make it or someone gets sick in pregame. He takes shifts on the PK and gives someone a rest every so often for the game. Its a good money move and the Rangers are really gonna need that for the next 2 years.
 
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TheDirtyH said:
I mean, if Panarin's the product of anyone, I think our 'playoff' showing proved who that would be.

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Me thinks SBOB would have us believe Panarin looked like shit in the play-in because Strome wasn't going, whereas most sensible people would understand Strome looked like an AHL-er in the play-in because, for the first time all year, Panarin wasn't going.
 
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UnSandvich said:
Ah, the good old "Panarin has Strome to thank for the reason he was a Hart candidate". That one's always a good laugh
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I haven't read this thread, but anyone making this comment just didn't watch Panarin play this season...he would have put up 60+ points flanked by today's versions of Wade Redden and Marek Malik.

Not trying to diminish Stone though...he's a solid player in his own right. But he did nothing more than ride Panarin's coattails all season. Even after we traded for him 2 years ago, he was producing at the best rate of his career and was only on pace for 45 points.
 
Oscar Lindberg said:
Ya'll are killing me about Strome, I don't have the energy for this today

Not that it matters because Gorton will either dump him at the draft or give him a year and dump him at the deadline, so the conversation is moot

In other news, apparently Jimmy Hayes said on some podcast somewhere that Ottawa offered Tkachuk and 3OA for Lafreniere
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That is how I'd like to see the Rangers go about it, he's a RFA with 1 RFA year left.

I don't see much of a reason for the Rangers to buy any UFA years unless they come at discount, which is not going to happen given his production this past season. I also don't see any financial upside for Strome selling any UFA years at anything less than UFA price.

Qualify him, explore trades, if no trade is made offer him what he'd likely get by going through with arbitration for the one and only year arbitration could award him.

If he signs that one year, fine. If not letting arbitration set the salary for that final RFA year while slightly risky is the point to having that mechanism in the CBA to begin with.

Either way on a one year deal the Rangers can at that point use him, trade him, trade him with retention, they could even try to work out an extension before that year contract ends should the Rangers for some reason feel that is what they'd like to try.

As long as they do not self rent him next year without an extension in place, I am not sure I see the downside to a one year deal.


At this point given the flat cap for a couple years I am not so sure that eventually does not happen with more and more RFAs. ADA as well, it may take one contract covering all his remaining RFA years, or a couple contracts, yet similarly he would need an incentive (large salary) to sign away any UFA years now under a stagnant cap, and the team under those same constraints has less room to incentivize.
 
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SingnBluesOnBroadway said:
I don't care what he was before he got here. He was productive without Panarin here. What was Zibanejad before he got here?

And, as much as you long to dismiss it, Panarin was never a Hart finalist before playing with Strome.
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Please send some of the stuff you’re smoking to me. It seems to transcend reality.
 
UnSandvich said:
There is chemistry between Buchnevich & Kreider/Zibanejad, but people are climbing all over themselves to trade him. And Buchnevich is a significantly better NHL player than Strome.
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1) I don't think people are climbing all over themselves to trade Buchnevich. I do think that people see there are in-house candidates who could (or at least we hope) can move up and replace him.

2) The much better player has never matched Strome's best season. So I don't know how you can state that he's a significantly better player aside from personal preference.
 
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Ottawa already say publicly that they wouldn't trade 3 & 5 for 1?

If so, why on earth would they do Tkachuk & 3 for 1?
 
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