Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part LVII

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Well, there is little doubt that TDA, Buchnevich and Strome would be available in the right deal. It's a question of other GM's who are dumb year in and year out actually offer a solid deal to Gorton instead of the crap he usually receives.
 
Smith had effective games last season when he was shoe-horned on the 4th line. He was defensively responsible, coming in on forecheck, battling on boards etc. Being a natural defenseman I didn't expect much else. I don't have a stake here and I don't understand a point in denying it. Long-term - not a good option, but in emergency - it's a consideration. Obviously smaller than his ability to play LD or RD but still a consideration.
I wouldn't call him a natural anything
 
Rangers should give McIlrath a scouting job then. it is just sad that McIlrath couldn't be a McQuaid type of NHL player which I had his ceiling as a 5th 6th PK nasty defenseman. did the injury really set him back or just a bunch of bad luck besides the injury? he did not look bad when he was with the Rangers. I have seen worse Dale Purinton Dave Karpa Igor Ulanov to name a few. even a guy if McIlrath had a Strudwick type of career it would not be so bad.
Probably no one better suited to spot and warn us about future McIlraths.
 
I’d be happy with Strome on a two year deal. Worst case, he gets exposed to Seattle. Best case he produces at a relative bargain rate. The long term decision whether to sign or keep him gets kicked down the road a year. I sincerely doubt he would sign a two year contract though.

Strome at 4 years only makes sense if you see him as a centerpiece of a Stanley Cup contending team. I’m not ready to sign up for that.
 
The assertion that the Oilers were bad from Strome is weird to me because the Oilers that year were better than the Rangers basically across the board.

I'm not exactly saying Strome is going to revert to that player but I am saying that giving a player that has that history a 4 year deal is a massive unnecessary risk especially when "what has he done here" equates to about 130 games out of a 491 game career.

Also, if we accept the fact Panarin is the driving force on the line (which I know is controversial) what is the point in "paying for chemistry" when we can just plug in a cheaper player there and get similar results? That's how you get into cap hell in this league. It's not about Strome, it's just a fact.
I am not debating how good or bad the Oilers were. I am simply stating that it was not working for him there. Full stop.

Again, Strome has not done anything but produce since he arrived here. That is spanning over a year.

Of course Panarin is the driving force of the line. There is not many lines that he would not be such a player, but this is where the views diverge. The very simplified "anyone can do it" theory does not really work. Otherwise go sign someone on an ECL and they will produce similar results.

Strome for a $5m for 2-4 years is not cap hell. It is the cost of doing smart business.
 
We will need to disagree. I do not view 3 or 4 years as either a massive risk or a colossal mistake. The right time to evaluate the situation.

What is the worst thing? That he continues to produce with Panarin at a 55-60 point rate instead of 70?
What an absurd statement

The worst thing is he goes back to being the 30 point player he's always been and we're paying him 5 million+ a year

I mean give me a break
 
I’d be happy with Strome on a two year deal. Worst case, he gets exposed to Seattle. Best case he produces at a relative bargain rate. The long term decision whether to sign or keep him gets kicked down the road a year. I sincerely doubt he would sign a two year contract though.

Strome at 4 years only makes sense if you see him as a centerpiece of a Stanley Cup contending team. I’m not ready to sign up for that.

Same - two year deal is optimal length. If not one year would be better than 3 or longer.
 
We will need to disagree. I do not view 3 or 4 years as either a massive risk or a colossal mistake. The right time to evaluate the situation.

What is the worst thing? That he continues to produce with Panarin at a 55-60 point rate instead of 70?
Three or four years is our whole goddamned window. There's no situation that would take so long to evaluate.
 
What an absurd statement

The worst thing is he goes back to being the 30 point player he's always been and we're paying him 5 million+ a year

I mean give me a break
This is just as relevant as being afraid that he goes back to being a 50 point player, which he was in the past
 
Three or four years is our whole goddamned window. There's no situation that would take so long to evaluate.
The Rangers have a player that meshes well with their best player and when paired with him produces on top-line level. You are right. There is no situation. The situation is just fine.

If Chytil steps up to be 2C at 23 or 24 instead of 22, it would not really shock me.
Wrapping up Strome before addressing ADA or Buchnevich is malpractice.
This opinion presents the same amount of weight if you were to sub in any of the other names instead of Strome. It is a viewpoint, nothing else.

Do I think that Strome is not part of the long term future? Probably not. Will he have place in the near to mid term? Quite possibly. And it is not like I want him here over DeAngelo. I have made my viewpoints pretty clear on this.
 
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So we're just ignoring the multiple seasons of him being that player? He was glued to the MVP of the league, of course he was going to play better.

Just laughable how you guys are trying to spin this lol
I don't care what he was before he got here. He was productive without Panarin here. What was Zibanejad before he got here?

And, as much as you long to dismiss it, Panarin was never a Hart finalist before playing with Strome.
 
I don't care what he was before he got here. He was productive without Panarin here. What was Zibanejad before he got here?

And, as much as you long to dismiss it, Panarin was never a Hart finalist before playing with Strome.
You know the Hart trophy is voted on by….get this…reporters, right?
 
So we're just ignoring the multiple seasons of him being that player? He was glued to the MVP of the league, of course he was going to play better.

Just laughable how you guys are trying to spin this lol
What is truly laughable is how the anti-Strome brigade tries to tie itself into knots in explaining his production and how he truly is an inferior player.
 
Ya'll are killing me about Strome, I don't have the energy for this today

Not that it matters because Gorton will either dump him at the draft or give him a year and dump him at the deadline, so the conversation is moot

In other news, apparently Jimmy Hayes said on some podcast somewhere that Ottawa offered Tkachuk and 3OA for Lafreniere
 
I don't know what that has to with anything. But I'll bite.
How about this? Panarin had the highest-scoring season of his career this season.
Maybe a player in a market like NYC stands out to reporters more than one in Columbus. His output was only marginally better than the previous season's with another team.
 
Ah, the good old "Panarin has Strome to thank for the reason he was a Hart candidate". That one's always a good laugh
I'm glad that you enjoyed the laugh. It's important to laugh these days.

Whether or not you want to admit it, as easily as you want to to dismiss it, there is chemistry between to the two. Now, you can easily say "hell, anyone can play with Panarin and be productive." But that's not true. We've seen it time and again in this league that that's not the case. Look now further than what saw it here with Jagr after Nylander and Straka left.
 
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